BlueandSilverBear 60 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 On 10/6/2023 at 7:13 PM, AwakeEnergyScouter said: Whoa!! It stays in her hair?? Pony tail first, clip right above the pony tail holder. #GirlDadScoutSkills 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
1980Scouter 99 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Now will recharter go this year? With bankruptcy on the back burner now playing the waiting game and fees/costs increasing will it be an increase in numbers? My thought is that there will be a decrease in numbers as has been the trend other than last year. One LC by me is even charging a late fee if the charter is late or incomplete. Link to post Share on other sites
InquisitiveScouter 1656 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, 1980Scouter said: One LC by me is even charging a late fee if the charter is late or incomplete. You've got room for one more straw, right? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
BlueandSilverBear 60 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, 1980Scouter said: Now will recharter go this year? With bankruptcy on the back burner now playing the waiting game and fees/costs increasing will it be an increase in numbers? My thought is that there will be a decrease in numbers as has been the trend other than last year. One LC by me is even charging a late fee if the charter is late or incomplete. Haven't heard from the Troops, but recruiting for our Pack has been phenomenal after a big crossover year. The current Webelos 1 and 2 classes are small, so Troops will have to get creative on recruiting the next couple years and won't be able to rely on crossovers alone. Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle94-A1 2687 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 29 minutes ago, BlueandSilverBear said: Haven't heard from the Troops, but recruiting for our Pack has been phenomenal after a big crossover year. Glad someone is being successful. The packs I have talked to are having issues with recruiting. Lot of folks cannot afford the $140 fee that national and council is charging. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mrjohns2 582 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Last year was awesome. We went from like 30 to 72. This year we went from 34 to 59. Many families took a look at the $80+$25 and said no thank you. Link to post Share on other sites
BetterWithCheddar 125 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 56 minutes ago, Eagle94-A1 said: Glad someone is being successful. The packs I have talked to are having issues with recruiting. Lot of folks cannot afford the $140 fee that national and council is charging. Our Pack hosted a recruitment event a few weeks ago and I'm so glad no parents asked me about how the $100+ membership fee is used. I didn't want to have to explain it funds a bureaucracy that has little or nothing to do with the experience your child will have in Scouting this year ... figured that'd be a bit off-putting. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Tron 82 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 The price is nothing. Literally super cheap compared to most anything else. It's $80 a year, councils can match that and bring the total to $160. In comparison it's the heart of high school football season right now and the average family spends $671 a season on football; that's right $671 for 12 weeks of participation(about a million participants a season). The couch potatoes are about to spend $167 a year for Disney+ (just over 147 million subscriptions in the US). Scouting is cheap compared to just about anything else you want to compare it to; sports, gaming, tv. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
yknot 1338 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 29 minutes ago, Tron said: The price is nothing. Literally super cheap compared to most anything else. It's $80 a year, councils can match that and bring the total to $160. In comparison it's the heart of high school football season right now and the average family spends $671 a season on football; that's right $671 for 12 weeks of participation(about a million participants a season). The couch potatoes are about to spend $167 a year for Disney+ (just over 147 million subscriptions in the US). Scouting is cheap compared to just about anything else you want to compare it to; sports, gaming, tv. Costs and relative value for any youth activity are pretty dependent on where you are, what kind of council and unit you are in, and how involved your scout and family want to be in it. You can spend thousands on a couple seasons of a travel sport; you can spend thousands on a HA trip or jambo type events. One of the initial sticker shock problems with scouting is that there is no gradual on ramp; you pretty much pay the same to try it out as a cub scout as you do to rejoin as a seasoned troop level scout. That's not the case with most other youth activities geared for the elementary level age groups and it is a deterrent. Link to post Share on other sites
InquisitiveScouter 1656 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tron said: The price is nothing. OK, then please DM me for my Venmo info and send me the registration fees for our 55 Scouts @ $155 each. That's $8525. Now, that does not include all the adult registrations. So, if it really is nothing, please send along the fees for our 35 adults @ $65 per, for $2275. Approx total for our unit (it will be a bit more...) is $10,800. And, if you choose not to send it to me, I'll give you my council info and you can mail them a check for deposit into our unit account. Since, after all, it is nothing. P.S. https://www.bankrate.com/finance/credit-cards/living-paycheck-to-paycheck-statistics/ Edited October 10, 2023 by InquisitiveScouter Link to post Share on other sites
RememberSchiff 3682 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I have not recently heard the old axiom, "A Scout pays his own way." Link to post Share on other sites
skeptic 997 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Here again we see the result of the concept that what goes up must go down being proven to be wrong it appears. It is just another element of our messed up culture. Everybody wants more income, and everybody expects nothing to cost more. The two do not work together. I continually have asked, for decades now, how high is up? We might ask too how low can we find ourselves falling? And that can be applied to more things than those monetary. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
scoutldr 732 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 We are paying for Granddaughter's soccer. $265 per month. Scouting is still a bargain. Just matter of priorities. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
InquisitiveScouter 1656 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 It is a cost, nonetheless. And, unfortunately, parents often do not see value for the cost, depending on the dedication of unit-level volunteers. And make no mistake... it is we volunteers who create the great majority of any value realized. So, I ask myself often, why do I work so hard to create a great program for Scouts and families, when others literally get wealthy off of my efforts, while providing little to no value-added to the equation?? It is a bitter pill to swallow. Link to post Share on other sites
InquisitiveScouter 1656 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 And we may also see an impact soon, due to this... https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/03/americans-are-saving-less-in-2023-im-concerned-top-economist-says.html Link to post Share on other sites
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