John-in-KC Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 I have to laugh at some naïveté amongst the local councils When the tort lawyers finish with the National Council, they will rank order the local councils from richest to poorest. They’re going to come after the richest councils, and they will do their damndest to break any covenants on gifts that they can. Mark my words. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CynicalScouter Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) On 5/7/2021 at 7:30 PM, John-in-KC said: When the tort lawyers finish with the National Council, they will rank order the local councils from richest to poorest. They’re going to come after the richest councils, and they will do their damndest to break any covenants on gifts that they can. Expand I remain absolutely stunned that councils still think they can skate on this. They can't. Just sit back and watch. These statutes are going to tear every BSA council apart. Edited May 7, 2021 by CynicalScouter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitiveScouter Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 In the not so distant future??? Jimmy, building a fire: Mr. Scoutmaster, will you sign me off on the requirement for building a fire? Me: Jimmy, there aren't any requirements to sign off any more. The Boy Scouts of America no longer exists. Jimmy: Uh, OK, may I still build the fire? Me: Sure, have at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CynicalScouter Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 On 5/11/2021 at 5:20 PM, InquisitiveScouter said: The Boy Scouts of America no longer exists. Expand I am more hopeful than I was, but I am still thinking there's a chance that Boy Scouts of America really does become the first ever Congressionally Chartered group that is liquidated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980Scouter Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Some councils are being somewhat upfront with information concerning the costs associated with the lawsuits but most are not. Very interested to see what the TCC releases to LC this week concerning what assets they can keep/sell and how much they are expected to contribute to the settlement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CynicalScouter Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/16/2021 at 1:31 PM, 1980Scouter said: Very interested to see what the TCC releases to LC this week concerning what assets they can keep/sell and how much they are expected to contribute to the settlement. Expand Even more interested in 1) I the LC will release that information to local scouters 2) If the LCs will still continue to insist that local donations will stay local. I believe I saw a council fundraiser as recently as this week still making that claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle94-A1 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 On 5/16/2021 at 1:31 PM, 1980Scouter said: Some councils are being somewhat upfront with information concerning the costs associated with the lawsuits but most are not. Very interested to see what the TCC releases to LC this week concerning what assets they can keep/sell and how much they are expected to contribute to the settlement. Expand On 5/16/2021 at 2:11 PM, CynicalScouter said: Even more interested in 1) I the LC will release that information to local scouters 2) If the LCs will still continue to insist that local donations will stay local. I believe I saw a council fundraiser as recently as this week still making that claim. Expand I don't know how my LC came up with the figure, but they did. And at the moment that figure is not being released. The council is looking to sell properties to come up with the money. some are worthless, i.e. property that has no road access and is split down the middle by the interstate, as well as the camps.. Anyone know what a B+ property is valued at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980Scouter Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Local council staff are leaving in record numbers. I have been watching multiple LC and I think the staff realizes the end may be near. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel947 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 On 5/22/2021 at 1:44 AM, 1980Scouter said: Local council staff are leaving in record numbers. I have been watching multiple LC and I think the staff realizes the end may be near. Expand If my organization was facing an existential bankruptcy, I'd be looking for the exits. I have obligations, I have no intention to be the last one on a sinking ship out of loyalty to any employer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitiveScouter Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) I think many have been putting out resumes and doing interviews just to hedge their bets. Edited May 22, 2021 by InquisitiveScouter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980Scouter Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 On 5/22/2021 at 1:46 AM, Sentinel947 said: If my organization was facing an existential bankruptcy, I'd be looking for the exits. I have obligations, I have no intention to be the last one on a sinking ship out of loyalty to any employer. Expand I agree 100%. The ship is sinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980Scouter Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 On 5/22/2021 at 1:47 AM, InquisitiveScouter said: I think many have been putting resumes and doing interviews just to hedge their bets. Expand Some are leaving poor councils and moving to ones that can withstand the lawsuits. If it is SOL laws or just resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjohns2 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 On 5/22/2021 at 1:52 AM, 1980Scouter said: Some are leaving poor councils and moving to ones that can withstand the lawsuits. If it is SOL laws or just resources. Expand I know that one saw that during the pandemic. Got to a very good spot, all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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