walk in the woods

One might also note that 35-49 year olds (i.e. potentially parents of youth that could currently be members), the number opposing vs approving are well outside the margin of error.

Based on the info given, 18-34 year olds are within the margin of error.

The young man on the left's face paint might suggest France? The young man on the right appears to be guilty of cultural appropriation .

Flag on the play, shifting the burden of proof. It's the BSA's and supports proposition to change the membership requirement, therefore their responsibility to prove the benefit.

Ommission or Commission, a lie is a lie.

The latter pitch would have been trustworthy and brave and conducive to having a conversation with the membership about next steps; the former pitch is a lie.

FWIW, some of our members aren't waiting for the next program year. http://www.inforum.com/news/4351136-its-about-time-local-packs-welcome-girls-advance-2018-boy-scouts-inclusion-move

We put my son in several years of swim lessons. He's autistic and couldn't take the feel of water running down his face, in his nose or eyes. We started from just standing in the pool splashing. In the end he became a strong and confident enough swimmer to pass his swim tests every year. Still uses nose plugs and goggles as accommodation. If he really can swim well and it's just the jumping in part, maybe start with jumping in shallower water and move up.

Thanks.

Looking at other scouting programs to justify going co-ed presumes that co-ed is the preferred end point. The debate isn't over whether co-ed can work but rather whether co-ed is the right option for the boys currently in the program and the impact it will have on them.

I found his logic dicey. He's was ok with separate but equal as long as there was a co-ed option, but opposed to separate but equal without the co-ed option. Not sure one's support or opposition to SBE should swing on context.

Maybe. One of the packs I UC for doubled in size over the last two years. It's been a bugbear to recruit den leaders and they still don't have a functioning committee. I would absolutely tell them to reconsider trying to double again.

Maybe a good candidate for a Venturing Crew?

I salute the Girl Scouts standing with the courage of their convictions. I'm rolling my eyes at the BSA's official line.

I'm curious what you mean by mixed. I've only been to a few actual pow wows, but in each one the drums were entirely male. There were women present but they didn't participate in the drumming, rather sitting in an outer circle around the drummers. As for the dancing, the specialties were separated by gender. Male fancy dancers wearing the bustles, bells, and head gear; female dancers wearing and participating in shawl and jingle dress dances. Is your experience different?

Or he could answer with the company line, "Like the GSUSA, the BSA believes in the value of single-gender programming while reaching the entire family. So, we've decided to make our program of character development available to girls while maintaining the benefit of single-gender programming." Try not to roll your eyes while saying it......

Too many to list, and with the pain of starting this discussion again, laser tag and squirt gun fights..........

Two years max. Once the LDS money dries up, and we don't see enough membership growth from adding girls, the third G will fall. We'll start a "discussion" at the National meeting in May 2019. The CSE will tell us there's no pressure to change. It's just an internal discussion. Think about it, if our new focus is to better serve families, then the argument will be we aren't fully serving atheist/agnostic families. The BSA will try to calm the fears of the remaining religious COs by offering the local option. People in favor of the change will argue character development isn't just fo

Including the BSA. Feedback is a gift.

Define political organization. Are we talking RNC/DNC/LP/Greens or any organization that lobbies politicians? Are city councils and/or county boards included in political organizations?

Those 50k boys might just offset the loses from the LDS church in 2019.

A plan in place before an announcement is good. Not creating policies you know will be ignored is also a bonus.

It would be interesting to see how many 14-18 year olds pursued Eagle (and the many then equivalents) if they also had the current option to roll their own program.

Yep. Move Star, Life, Eagle and Merit Badges into the 14-18 age range, make Scouts all about 1st Class Skills, Summer Camps about having fun, etc.