johnsch322

I believe it is a First Amendment Right called free speech. It should still taught in school classrooms.

Kosnoff Law @SexAbuseAttys · Oct 5 To survivors who read my tweets: If you are willing to talk to the media about your reactions to the plan, please text me with yes and your phone/e-mail address at 425-830-8201. You don’t have to be an AIS client but if you are not, you should clear it with your lawyer first. 6 1 6 Kosnoff Law @SexAbuseAttys · 23h Wow. Thanks for all of you who are texting me that you are willing to talk to the media. I need for you to identify in your texts whether you are represented by AIS law firms; a Coalition Law Firm or you are unrepresented. I have a major news organization that wants to talk 2 U.

That is an image without his face. I copy pasted it.

To survivors who read my tweets: If you are willing to talk to the media about your reactions to the plan, please text me with yes and your phone/e-mail address at 425-830-8201. You don’t have to be an AIS client but if you are not, you should clear it with your lawyer first.

I think you are only half correct. The forum has been used as a point for members to state their positions on the proposal from BSA (the RSA). If ones position or view changes a claimants view that is not actually a bad thing. My own personal views have been changed and that is due to facts that have been presented. A big portion of what has been posted is the easier to read recaps and legal views from @CynicalScouterand or @ThenNowand others. Yes their are posts that might influence the voting but in all honesty that is a great thing for victims (maybe not so much for non victims.

It’s a Washington State number at this time of year you might get an Albacore trip out of Westport Wa. Albacore don’t like insurance companies.

Tim Kosnoff is looking for survivors looking to talk to national media. Read his Twitter account.

My fear exactly.

1 Even though I am 67 I feel as if I have plenty of time left. I feel much better about what happened to me now that I have been able to be public about it. 2 I can’t say how much more exactly I can get but I will say that I don’t believe by voting no I will get less. 3 If my no vote helped result in a defeat and only the BSA national was part of the exit my next step will be state court. I am tier one, aggravating factors and in an SOL state.

They would look good with my members only jacket LOL

Is there anyone on this forum that could give me a rational objective reason to vote anything but NO on the current proposal?

It’s not that I care when you down vote me (and you do quite often) I would like you to explain what it is you actually disagree with. Maybe I was wrong so put your down vote thoughts together and explain. Maybe I will change my view or learn something new. If I am down voting I always try to explain why. I might even disagree with a post write out my thoughts and not down vote the original post or I might do both. Or I might disagree and do neither. To me aside from being informative a forum is a place for discussion and debate.

BSA entered Bankruptcy voluntarily and new of this requirement and even knew that more claimants would come forward. They were not forced into bankruptcy hence on their own volition.

Let’s be honest. BSA was afraid it wouldn’t survive if it had to go to court on all of the lawsuits it faced. So they then entered bankruptcy and even on their own volition asked claimants to come forward. That with the help of law firms has resulted in the claims being 82,500 (they were facing less than 300 when this started). The amount that BSA has come forward with though not substantial on its own is a higher percentage of net value than what the LC’s have come up with. The amount the LC’s have put forward is pathetic. What is worse is the amount that they negotiated supposedly for the victims of fractions on the dollar from the insurance companies. The only reason they are doing this is to try to entice uninformed claimants with what sounds like (but isn’t) a substantial sum so they can get out of their obligations to survivors and their own bankruptcy hell. As a survivor in an open state with a tier one abuse to be looking at 57K as the award is pathetic. Shame shame BSA!!

The truth is in front of everyone’s eyes. Some just choose to ignore it. In your view what are the lies?

No the legal case is not about punishing BSA...it is about the BSA looking to survive via bankruptcy by giving the least amount they can legally get away with to survivors.

So I checked out the link and I couldn’t find anything about abuse in the BSA. Where should I look

My hope is for the cram down.

I agree with you to a point but I also see a need for legal representation when it gets to the point of being in front of the trustee. The lawyers who just sat back and did nothing and if they continue to do nothing will find that their clients will get next to nothing. And they will get their cut of next to nothing. I think this is why the TCC is pushing for claimants to have representation. Of course if I was a lawyer I might feel I could represent myself.

First I don’t think you totally understand contingency cases. If there is no award the lawyer gets nothing. Also there are quite a few lawyers with 10 to 20 clients. If 20 clients received 10k each should the lawyer worked for 500 to 1k? Also all claimants signed on their own volition a contract which specifies what portion of any award that they may get in writing or they could have represented themselves. So they had options. You might not like outlandish awards but that is the purpose of insurance. You can criticize the system but it’s a little late to use that excuse when the system is being used by the BSA, LC’s CO’s and insurance companies to limit the payouts to circumvent the state courts by using the bankruptcy. The most outlandish part is that some states have time limits to file claims for Child Sexual Abuse. This is also a loophole that the actual perpetrators have to use in almost all states. As for governments and family members the abuse acts in the BSA were not committed by these entities. Families places the care of their young in the hands of the BSA and the BSA and the LC’s etc etc we’re negligent. No one is trying to rewrite history as fair as abuse victims are concerned. The only entity who tried to rewrite history is the BSA who hid from and fought against, and destroyed some of the files.

When you say balanced and fair who would it be balanced and fair for? Why would it be fair to ask lawyers to take less and not those holding the liabilities to pay more? The current options are currently weighted in balance to BSA, LC’s, CO’s and insurance company’s. A fair amount for victims would be comparable to what the victims of other CSA cases received and the current options are well below that payout. If the BSA ceased to exist (and I am not advocating for that outcome) the only larger effect would be youth would have to find other activities and there are multiple options for them.

I am not a lawyer, only a rational human being with opinions based on longevity and personal experience So how do you propose if not thru the course of this bankruptcy that the CSA victims be compensated? I believe you have been asked this question in several ways and multiple times by many forum members.

This is a bankruptcy it is about business. The only caring can come from individuals and I am amazed at how many don’t care about victims. If the RSA is passed as is the only ones who will be short changed will be the survivors who’s abuse happened in open states or are within the time limits to sue. Under this version the LC’s, CO’s and insurance companies are coming up smelling like roses. If this becomes a cram down/BSA only bankruptcy then there will be survivors in closed states that will lose in the current time frame. As more states open up those from closed states will be able to file in state court. If an RSA is not put forward with much more from LC’s, CO’s, and insurance companies there will be a big campaign waged by numerous attorneys against the plan and one of the most vocal will be Tim Kosnoff. Just look at how many claimants wrote letters to the judge and how much easier it will be for them to mark no on the voting ballot.

Just by always JMO does not legitimize your opinions. As a victim I do not feel you wish me well instead you are basically constantly saying no amount of money will make you whole in a way that suggests why bother getting anything when you won’t be happy anyway. You also are always demonizing lawyers so my first question to you would be do you work for free in your primary occupation? We may not all agree with Tim Kosnoff et al but he does have the right to his opinions whether they are inconsistent or not and the right to be paid for his work. I think you would have more of a legitimate beef against him if he had only just started taking abuse cases when this bankruptcy started. He has been representing the abused for decades. I also feel that my lawyer is not stealing from me and depending where all this ends up him and his law firm might make millions. As you are not disclosing what type of emotional damage you are suffering from it would be hard to gauge if your issues equates to the issues that I and many other survivors have suffered. I also don’t feel like you wish for this bankruptcy process to play itself out so what do you propose instead?

It’s not that I feel you don’t care it’s more that your caring is more leaning away from victims and more to peripherals. As far as value for the damage caused it is well laid out in law and determined by a judge or jury if a state court trial is pursued. If my case went before a jury trial it might bring 10 to 20 million dollars or not. That is for a jury or judge to decide. As for the entity’s that should have protected me well they didn’t. They showed poor judgement, lack of process and in my honest opinion lack of caring.