johnsch322

And a new countdown begins…..great news.

Yesterday my attorneys contacted me and informed me that my claim amount had been determined. After years of anxiety about what the outcome (I truly believed I deserved the maximum amount) my claim came in at 2.67 million. Yes, I know I will most like only get a fraction of that amount but the fact that my pain and suffering was valued at that amount is the most important aspect. In all honesty I cried, just like after 50 years of telling not one soul I finally opened up about what had happened to me. With the appeals and the court cases that may come up I know that this is not over yet, but I finally feel like I have crossed third base, and I am on my way to home plate. Over the past 22 hours I have thought quite a bit about how I have survived these past 6 years and the people that have given me moral support. I have reached out to those folks and thanked them. I now want to reach out to my survivor community on this forum and say thank you, without all of you I do not know how I would have made it. Thank you to Scouter Forum for giving me a place to vent my frustrations, state my opinions and allow me to interact with other survivors and not kicking me off the site. Thank you, moderators, for your patience. I am sure some of my posts made some of you cringe. I want to thank @ThenNow for always having my backside no matter how outrageous some of my posts were. Our DM's to each other always made me feel like I had a brother standing next to me. I want to thank the TCC (I am sure there are members here on Scouter Forum). I know that all of you took on an almost impossible thankless task that was never going to please everyone. One last thing (at least for now) @skeptic please no sad or confused faces. Maybe this will be the one post that you can give a green up arrow to that I have written. Thank you all, John

Thank you so much for your update. I have thought of you often these past few years wondering how you were doing. I am glad to hear you are alive and kicking. Personally, I am still in the waiting period to hear the value of my claim. I decided not to ask for access to look at the progress thru the portal as I believe it might trigger some anxiety. Instead, I have continued to work to keep myself busy and of course to make a few shekels. I am definitely ready for this phase to be over with so I can roughly plan the next decade or more of my life. I want to thank you for helping me feel like there was someone else riding shotgun with me in the first couple of years of this process. You will always hold a special place in my heart.

The County of Los Angeles has announced a 4 billion dollar settlement with 6,000 claimants for sexual abuse. BSA CSA survivors are getting the proverbial shaft.

You are correct it is fair, though maybe not always wise. @skeptic for years has been espousing a view that CSA victims and more specifically BSA CSA victims do not deserve any more than a mere pittance for what they had to endure while under the watchful eye of the BSA. He has made statements where he has said that Survivors are taking money that belongs to today's youth (as if we were thieves). Claiming victimhood does not make one an authority on CSA. Rape and abuse of a child has to be one of the most horrific experiences that a young person can endure. To have to live with that pain for the rest of one's life is not an easy thing to endure, I know. Would @skeptic like to put a cap on the amount that could be awarded to a victim of someone who had gasoline deliberately poured on their body and then set on fire? And in every one of these venues there should be no cap on awards for CSA.

For someone who has never been a victim Mr. skeptic how do you feel qualified to be able to make such a statement? Are you even qualified at all about what a Child Sexual Abuse victim goes thru in their lifetime? Do you have firsthand knowledge of what it is like to be raped as a child? Post up the article (which makes me believe the state of Maryland is facing some big-time lawsuits and are trying to limit their exposure since they cannot do the cowardly "file bankruptcy"). Sometimes it is just better to keep your IMO's to yourself, so you don't appear to be so petty.

I for one voted no both times.

The BSA made sure that couldn’t happen because they filed the bankruptcy.

Enjoy your vacation. I welcome your viewpoint.

Exactly,,,yet you continue.

Please do not try to paint BSA as a victim.

This is Hooey, When the initial allegations came forward about the nude photos he could have been removed as a member of the BSA period. There is no god given right to be an adult member of BSA. How many young boys could have been saved? And they did have standing as he was part of their organization. Taking nude photos of young boys and having sexual relationships with them is neither homosexuality or bisexuality. How can you possibly say they removed the threat as best they could when after the nude photos came up they allowed him access to children. That is called gross negligence.

This statement I can't get out of my mind. I am a child of the 60's having been born in the early 50's. I had long hair, I smoked pot, I questioned authority, and I witnessed and read about all that was going on in that time period. Not once was Free Love about sex with children or taking photos of young boys to satisfy perverted sexual desire it was about consensual sex with consenting adults and not feeling guilty about it.

"was twice "called to task" for taking nude photographs of Boy Scouts," you need a law to know that was wrong? "two Scouts came forward to say Brock had "relationships with them as well as other members of the troop" and I know for a fact that the types of relationships he was having was hella illegal, even in the 60's.

"Clyde A. Brock, a 53-year-old bachelor, was twice "called to task" for taking nude photographs of Boy Scouts, displaying them around his Oregon City home, then showing them off to boys who visited. Yet troop leaders didn't kick him out. Only after two Scouts came forward to say Brock had "relationships with them as well as other members of the troop ...that cannot be condoned" was he expelled from Scouting in 1968. Scouting executives quietly blacklisted Brock from ever volunteering again, but let him skirt the accusations by writing a letter of resignation citing only his high blood pressure for quitting. Let's see how the system worked: Twice called to task. Not once but twice, Troop leaders did not kick him out. Later had multiple relationships with multiple boys (and we know what that means). He was not reported to police. Allowed him to write a letter of resignation.

BSA Settlement Trust Financials Thru 12/31/23 https://scoutingsettlementtrust.my.salesforce.com/sfc/p/#Dp0000016pkB/a/Uu000000e6l4/QDFa7uyndHmsnfZMMFiAnt0qCKrBIPkLSXKIzLDxTgU

This is not a factual statement. Part of the files were released to the public October 18th, 2012, and only after a court order. Even what was released covered only 20 years 1965 to 1985. Even today there are files that have not been released. Boy Scout 'perversion files' offer disturbing portrait of suspected abusers, handling of their cases - oregonlive.com "Many records show Scouting officials referring to sexual abuse in the vaguest terms -- describing it as "improper and indiscreet conduct with boys" or "abnormal conduct with boys."" This is part of the path of release and why so many people associated with BSA hate him 2006: Washington State Supreme Court rules that "perversion files" must be revealed to Seattle sex-abuse lawyer Tim Kosnoff. Here is a part of the Boy Scout efforts: "Clyde A. Brock, a 53-year-old bachelor, was twice "called to task" for taking nude photographs of Boy Scouts, displaying them around his Oregon City home, then showing them off to boys who visited. Yet troop leaders didn't kick him out. Only after two Scouts came forward to say Brock had "relationships with them as well as other members of the troop ...that cannot be condoned" was he expelled from Scouting in 1968. Scouting executives quietly blacklisted Brock from ever volunteering again, but let him skirt the accusations by writing a letter of resignation citing only his high blood pressure for quitting. Brock's case is included in 14,500 pages of confidential Boy Scout"

That is a far cry from saying we have files on men who have committed perverted sex acts upon young boys while engaging in the business of the Boy Scouts of America.

And as far as BSA Bankruptcy and where the bankruptcy plan what is the relevance?

Where do you get your information? Are you part of the settlement trust? When you say "many cannot", how many are you saying, what is the percentage? Have you read the claims? Except for what you have read do you know the lawyers? Do you actually even know a claimant? Have you walked in any of our shoes? As a survivor who was well vetted by a law firm who has filed 1600 claims I am disturbed by your constant attitude of trying to make the BSA look like the victim in all of this. It was the BSA who filed the Bankruptcy and ran their own ads for survivors to come forward. I know this because it was a BSA ad that made me come forward. What is sad is that there are people who post who have no real clue.

In 2019, the YMCA of the USA reached a settlement with several victims of sexual abuse who had filed lawsuits against the organization. The lawsuits involved five victims who had been sexually abused by a former YMCA employee in Minneapolis, Minnesota, in the 1970s and 1980s. The victims alleged that the YMCA had been aware of the abuse and failed to take appropriate action to prevent it. The lawsuits also alleged that the YMCA had a history of ignoring or covering up incidents of sexual abuse by staff members.

82,000 claimants in BSA Bankruptcy. I guess when an organization has more claims against it.

It is difficult to talk about, until you do. A lot of us are exactly like you. We might be in different stages of dealing with our trauma, but we are all alike. Talking about what happened will help erase any shame you might have and help you realize that there was nothing you could have done. You are a survivor. What you survived was not only physical but mental trauma and just like seeing a doctor for physical trauma a mental health professional can help you with your mental trauma. DM me if you wish,

Go ahead. Just no sad faces please.

As long as individuals or groups try to paint a picture of Child Sexual Abuse in the BSA that is not the truth, then these untruths will continue to be called out. That is the minimum that those victims who have died or have gone down deep dark holes as a result of their abuse deserve.