johnsch322

Exactly. You hit the nail on the head.

I hope you were able to get equitable compensation for your injuries. Justice thru the law cannot be served to my abusers because of the law.

I feel for you but my first question would be was that student prosecuted for what he did and why would he be allowed in your class? Did you sue for damages and if not why? Even 30 years ago you could have sued. Have you applied for a disability from the school district/state you worked for? You are entitled. I was a child who was raped by adults. I had no chance to confront or sue and no help was offered by the organization for whom they were leaders for. The BSA, LC's and insurance companies are in essence my disability pay. And if those two gentleman aren't dead I wish they

Having criminals/abusers in the community and being uncomfortable or unhappy is far and away from being a victim of the criminal/abuser. If the rapist in your class had victimized someone in your family or someone you were close to how courteous or professional would you be?

Thank you. I get your drift.

Thanks for the emoji and the reply. I wish that my serial down voter had the wisdom to explain his down votes.

For the majority of us justice cannot be served to our abusers. Personally I want both of them accountable but one I don't even know his name and the other his name was known at the time but nothing happened to him then and now too much time has passed. Both I would want dead. As for myself yes I want just compensation and yes that means money...a sh*t load of money if I had my way. So yes I guess I want both. You shouldn't be confused I would say that the majority of us feel the same way.

If I came across my abuser (been so long I am sure I couldn’t recognize him if he is alive) I would find a way to run over him in a crosswalk in my 2020 Ford Ranger 4X4. I just wanted to make sure you didn’t drive some piss ant little truck like a Chevy Luv.

What kind of truck?

All of this is arrogance on the part of the BSA. We have an abuse problem, but it's not very big. Equitable Compensation, the abused survivors will take pennies on the dollar and go away happy. Our CO's which are mission critical would never desert us, because they need us. Reach out to an abused scout and help him out, hell no we have millions more where he came from.

Quick thank you to the members of the TCC. I find the Town Halls to be very informative and I know all of this must be very painful for all of them. As hard as it is for us I can not imagine how heart wrenching it must be for them. They have a large load on their shoulders and I personally am grateful for their service to us.

And that is why they are in Bankruptcy.

I would be perfectly fine if a cute little Cub Scout got up and tearfully asked the court that thru this bankruptcy he would never be harmed in the way that all the abused have been. To ensure that every safeguard was put into place so the future within BSA is a safe place for him and all his fellow scouters.

So who are "they"? In your opinion are the people who believe in bigger numbers of victims than you do also "want greater government involvement in all of our lives"?

Please don't tell me that the numbers one believes have been abused has anything to do with political views.

Hopefully none of your friends and relatives are victims but factually they may not tell you and might be claimants. As far as the court records go we are just numbers not names.

Big difference of being contacted to be made aware of the bankruptcy and being solicited to file suits. If 95 percent of all men over the age of 55 or older were to be shown to contacted I wonder why I wasn’t? I wonder how they got contact info? If they only contacted active or current adult scouts whom BSA would have current contact info that would not sound Kosher to be able to certify anything.

How I have been feeling about so much of what people post: "People say believe half of what you see.Oh, and none of what you hear.Whoa, I jus' can't help being confused.If it's true please tell me dear. I heard it thru the grapevine"

Since most scouters do not attain the rank of Eagle Scout (Eagle Scouts are older scouts and abuse victims tend to younger) and the fact that most victims withdraw from scouting old Eagle Scouts (exception @ThenNow) would tend not to be abuse victims. But how were they approached...it couldn't have been thru the perversion files since victims names were redacted. Do you know for a fact if they were abused or not? If they were not abused are you saying someone (who) was trying to have them file false claims?

Here is a fact 82,500 claims. Nobody in this forum has the right or the knowledge to discount not one of these claims (including myself). Not one of them to my knowledge has been discounted in any type of court of law. I have my suspicions that some are false but I have no proof of fact. Yet some people on this forum who want or tout facts are quick to discount this number and are critical of anyone who chooses to believe based on other studies this number could be quite higher. BSA was founded in 1910 and it would be quite reasonable and factual to say the majority of those who had been

I believe that the number of 82k is low and here is why. My abuser per the perversion files molested at least 11 boys. When looking at the claims I am the only claimant on the local council. What happened to the at least 10 others? In the highest number of years statistically a large percentage of men have died. They aren’t counted. The reason this matters is so that some people can’t just say oh millions have been scouts and only a minuscule amount have been abused and then trumpet oh look how good a job the BSA does or has done.

Well that predates Tim Kosnoff. And the name "perversion files" or "P files" pretty much says that the BSA knew what they had in their ranks.

I am pretty sure the BSA would not have named it the "perversion files" instead they called it something that would was more innocuous the "IVF". As soon as one report had to do with the abuse of boys it became perverted on it's own. I am sure you do know that it wasn't Tim Kosnoff who thru the Oregon Supreme Court had the BSA release the IVF files. It was an attorney named Kelly Clark who is now deceased. Also it was the media who named them the "perversion files" and that happened immediately. What would you say would not be onerous and extreme. The victim in the case in O

What do you mean by this? Could you expound please?

He has to be the most interesting figure in the three ring circus.