johnsch322

Personally I am OK with letting all time barred claimants to vote (and I reside in and my abuse occurred in California). I am also OK with time barred claims getting full shares from the settlement fund. Their pain and suffering is just as great as my own and if we are thinking fair and equitable how could one think any different. I can see the argument from the other side but I do not see the morality in it.

And that is why if I am not mistaken that the disclosure statement was set up with a process to weed out the false and invalid claims. I would also like to believe that the TCC is OK with that process. The only real valid reason I could see to push for this vetting process at this time is to delay the entire process. The cost of vetting claims now would negate the savings later. Only the insurers win if delayed.

I just wanted to reiterate that for you.

Time barred is not fraud or false. the only reason to investigate the claims would be to delay the process. I am sure that the cost of setting standards (legal wrangling means more BSA spends on legal fees) would cost millions and than fighting every motion put forward by the insurance company's (more wrangling and more fees) counter motions by every lawyer who feels there clients claim was deemed fraudulent (more wrangling and more fees) etc. etc. Then you have the actual time that all this would take and bingo insurance company's win again. Not counting the mental anguish to all other claimants. I read over the investigators report and I very much doubt that the fact you may have a burglary or assault conviction on your file means that it is a false claim. I might add that having a social media presence where you appear to have a happy married life very much does not indicate what really happens in ones real life.

What would the standards be for a fraudulent/false claim?

Although the claims process thru AIS appears to have cut some corners I would find it hard to believe that if someone called and said I have info it would be turned into a claim. If that did happen and there is proof yes it should be brought to the court. Could it be possible that the few people who confided in you actually made claims but didn't for whatever reason want to fully confide in you?

What kind of contact did you if you do not mind me asking?

Sounds very much like out of the realm of realistic probabilities.

Exactly. You hit the nail on the head.

I hope you were able to get equitable compensation for your injuries. Justice thru the law cannot be served to my abusers because of the law.

I feel for you but my first question would be was that student prosecuted for what he did and why would he be allowed in your class? Did you sue for damages and if not why? Even 30 years ago you could have sued. Have you applied for a disability from the school district/state you worked for? You are entitled. I was a child who was raped by adults. I had no chance to confront or sue and no help was offered by the organization for whom they were leaders for. The BSA, LC's and insurance companies are in essence my disability pay. And if those two gentleman aren't dead I wish they were.

Having criminals/abusers in the community and being uncomfortable or unhappy is far and away from being a victim of the criminal/abuser. If the rapist in your class had victimized someone in your family or someone you were close to how courteous or professional would you be?

Thank you. I get your drift.

Thanks for the emoji and the reply. I wish that my serial down voter had the wisdom to explain his down votes.

For the majority of us justice cannot be served to our abusers. Personally I want both of them accountable but one I don't even know his name and the other his name was known at the time but nothing happened to him then and now too much time has passed. Both I would want dead. As for myself yes I want just compensation and yes that means money...a sh*t load of money if I had my way. So yes I guess I want both. You shouldn't be confused I would say that the majority of us feel the same way.

If I came across my abuser (been so long I am sure I couldn’t recognize him if he is alive) I would find a way to run over him in a crosswalk in my 2020 Ford Ranger 4X4. I just wanted to make sure you didn’t drive some piss ant little truck like a Chevy Luv.

What kind of truck?

All of this is arrogance on the part of the BSA. We have an abuse problem, but it's not very big. Equitable Compensation, the abused survivors will take pennies on the dollar and go away happy. Our CO's which are mission critical would never desert us, because they need us. Reach out to an abused scout and help him out, hell no we have millions more where he came from.

Quick thank you to the members of the TCC. I find the Town Halls to be very informative and I know all of this must be very painful for all of them. As hard as it is for us I can not imagine how heart wrenching it must be for them. They have a large load on their shoulders and I personally am grateful for their service to us.

And that is why they are in Bankruptcy.

I would be perfectly fine if a cute little Cub Scout got up and tearfully asked the court that thru this bankruptcy he would never be harmed in the way that all the abused have been. To ensure that every safeguard was put into place so the future within BSA is a safe place for him and all his fellow scouters.

So who are "they"? In your opinion are the people who believe in bigger numbers of victims than you do also "want greater government involvement in all of our lives"?

Please don't tell me that the numbers one believes have been abused has anything to do with political views.

Hopefully none of your friends and relatives are victims but factually they may not tell you and might be claimants. As far as the court records go we are just numbers not names.

Big difference of being contacted to be made aware of the bankruptcy and being solicited to file suits. If 95 percent of all men over the age of 55 or older were to be shown to contacted I wonder why I wasn’t? I wonder how they got contact info? If they only contacted active or current adult scouts whom BSA would have current contact info that would not sound Kosher to be able to certify anything.