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Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Wether he was paid or unpaid is immaterial to the situation. He worked for the BSA. In fact as an ASM he had authority over others and more than likely used that authority in the course of the abuse. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
My opinion: At the very least this is a very good case for having no statute of limitations for child molestation in both the criminal and civil sides of law. Who was really looking out for the two boys? Were the parents thinking about the embarrassment or shame for the children or themselves? Who was thinking about the long term ramifications of their mental health, the anguish and mental torture they more than likely have had to endure? Also the monetary cost of treatment. The ASM who committed crime did not have to answer for it. How many more youth did he abuse? How many more will he abuse? If it happened in the early eighties it was more than likely not until their 30's did the worst of the mental health issues arise. As for compensation thru the Bankruptcy I vote very much for just compensation. The abuse happened when the 2 were 10 and in the care of the Troop/Local Council/Chartered Organization/BSA National. The ASM was an employee of the BSA which makes the BSA responsible for his actions whether anyone could have predicted it or not. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I would be interested to hear others opinion on this... -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Were these policies written as national policy or was it just something that was general knowledge? If this written policy do you know where the policy manual was written and is there historical evidence? -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
No need to apologize....I am not immune to go off myself. The point I was trying to make was there may not have been YP if pressure had not been exerted upon the BSA. I was a scout in the 60's and I am not sure what exactly was the formal procedure for reporting was then. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
If they are part of 82,000 do you believe they should be compensated for their abuse? -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
In this situation you did the correct thing by calling the police but were the two boys offered paid for counseling/therapy to help them overcome the trauma that they endured? I wonder if they are now part of the 82,000 claimants? I also wonder how many other young boys did he abuse in and out of the BSA? Unfortunately too often the acts were not interrupted and when they did come to light the abusers were not reported to the authorities. In my personal situation at least 11 boys were suspected or known to have been abused but for some reason no one ever asked me. I would like to add one more thing. Were the other scouters in the troop individually and privately asked if this ASM had ever done something similar to them? It would have been rare that the ASM was caught the first time. Was all of the parents of the scouts in that troop made aware of what had happened? Was the ASM ever involved with another troop before this incident and or did he have access to young boys from other troops? -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
The files were kept secret until 2012 when the Oregon Supreme Court ordered them to made public. That is only 9 years ago. Was it a different time in 1981, or 1991, or 2001, or 2011? The Boy Scouts of America did not advocate to it's membership to go to the police when knowledge of abuse happened period. There were congressional hearings in 1973 and child sexual abuse was part of the hearing. Yes in the latest incident with the videotaping the police were called but I would bet you donuts to dollars if the pressure wasn't on the BSA it would have been covered up like so many other incidents. One other thing I would like to say is please do not use the line "at the expense, for the most part. the current youth in the program". In my opinion it makes the current youth to be victims of the survivors when if anything what the are losing is due to the past and recent leadership of the BSA. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I change the wording to abuse I hope that makes what happened to myself and countless others more palatable. It kind of like saying "cultural norms of the day were different" makes it everything that happened appear to be a little more normal...kind of like acceptable almost. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I am pretty sure that cultural norms of the time wasn't: Hey did you hear about Joe down the street? He abused the little Smith boy. Oh yeah well lets make sure the police don't know about that!! -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
And yet there seems to be a widespread belief from people who occasionally comment in this forum with that argument. What bothers me is that they seem to be older scouters (such as myself) who have a long history with the BSA. The other point that seems to be made quite often is why punish the new scouters. All of this is not against scouters per se but the organization BSA and it's LC's and CO's etc. They failed under the law! -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Child maltreatment[edit] Child sexual abuse has been recognized specifically as a type of child maltreatment in U.S. federal law since the initial Congressional hearings on child abuse in 1973.[1] Child sexual abuse is illegal in every state,[2] as well as under federal law.[3] Among the states, the specifics of child sexual abuse laws vary, but certain features of these laws are common to all states.[4] I copied this from Wickpedia. For me it takes away any argument of “different cultural norms of the day”. Society had laws on the books to punish those who victimized children. It was illegal, in every state period. If it was known and not reported then those that knew are as guilty as those who abused. If you have knowledge of a crime and you don't report it you aided and abetted. They may not have let them be part of BSA but they were free to find other areas to full their pedophilia. When an organization has a policy of cover up it makes it that much worse. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Within one year. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
The blind eye was turned not because it would tarnish good scouters instead it was turned because they didn’t want to tarnish the reputation of the national organization Boy Scouts of America. The stink is on all those who facilitated the carrying out of that policy. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
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Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Let me be realistic to you. I live and have lived for 54 years with the abuse upon my body and soul. I told not one person for 52 of those years what happened to me. I had fistulas next to my anus which started in my 20’s. My doctor said it was from anal penetration and was surprised when I said I wasn’t gay. Till this day stool leaks thru as my sphincter had to be cut. The Boy Scout files have 5 documents relating to my perpetrator and one of them says that they suspected he abused 11 to 13 others in my troop. Not once did they reach out to me to find out if I had been abused and if they could offer any help. That was the Boy Scout way. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I am appalled at the tenor of this post. It smacks of victim blaming “if the victim reported anything” if we haven’t learned anything we should know the victims/survivors as a whole told no one. “Wider context of the time”? How is that really relevant in the context of what took place? My personal story which I have told is one which is so similar to so many that I have read. The pattern of abuse reporting was set and used for over 50 years by the BSA. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Hypothetically what if Kosnoff legally represents no one? Could he just have been used as a figurehead for AIS and the actual representation is Eisenberg? It appears that he was trying to avoid paying his ex-wife alimony. Could he just have had a verbal agreement for monies? -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I don’t see my law firm on the list and they are supposedly representing 1600 claimants. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
My money is on the TCC. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
From where I sit that there would be a lot of lawyers making a mad dash to the court houses. Most likely may not be the best for the insurers would it? If hypothetically 10,000 lawsuits were filed that would be a lot of litigation with jury trials. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Welcome to the club @life. Please don't feel like you need to wait for another calm before you chime in. I believe next week from the filings I read yesterday there will be another storm brewing this coming week. When the storms from the bankruptcy and the storms in my head are raging is when I feel the most need to reach out here. I have not written much this past couple of weeks but I guess it is because my Prozac seems to be doing its job. @ThenNowsays it well -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
There does seem to be a few clowns but they are not very funny. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I feel like I am watching a 3 ring circus as all of this unfolds. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 4 Revised Plan
johnsch322 replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Kosnoff is going after Century on Twitter. Here is the latest and there is much more. He is calling them out any idea for his motive? I’m still waiting for a reply to my letter. Did he allow Century/Chubb to bury hundreds of billions of dollars in coverage liabilities in this run-off scheme that threatens tens of thousands of sex abuse victims? Why would he do that? Quote Tweet Kosnoff Law @SexAbuseAttys · Jun 7 Ltr to DiMemmo PA Ins Commissioner but no response. What is the Commissioner hiding? https://yumpu.com/en/document/view/65700116/ltr-to-dimemmo-pa-ins-comm… via @yumpu_com Kosnoff Law @SexAbuseAttys 4h The truth is not slander. There is a report it produced. And the Insurance Commissioner is a political figure. So, no, not slander. Quote Tweet Skunk @SkunkandBerry · 4h Replying to @SexAbuseAttys Slander? Kosnoff Law Retweeted Kosnoff Law @SexAbuseAttys · May 5 Worried about Century Indemnity? You should be. "Given the exhaustion of the NICO cover, does Century have sufficient financial resources to meet its obligations to policyholders? After all, it only has a statutory surplus of $25 million,