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And Tim Kosnoff one of the original AIS lawyers says “ I don’t know what to say, really, about AIS joint venture partner Ken Rothweiler’s statements about this plan. I want you to understand that I repudiate them for being false and misleading. I can’t control what he says but he not being truthful w anybody.”

No not just you.

I love it when a customer takes the first pencil.

They are to be mailed by the 15th. Then it is up to USPS as to when you receive.

Is that not really the same thing that would have happened if a police report was made out? Until guilt or innocence was established they would not be allowed in scouting. In fact if a scouter came forward today and named an abuser wouldn't the person be removed from scouting until scouting was 100% positive that the claim was bogus.

That is not what I say. And if someone does not want to use the wording that I have they can use their own. The point is to get the TCC view out to those who may not have another oppurtunity to see it

As was fair and equitable in the beginning. All I am saying is if MSU settlement is 1M why settle for 57K. What is on the table is definitely more dissappointing.

My intent is to get the word out there to reject. Facebook and other social media was used to gather claimants and I am hoping that maybe some of the same who might not otherwise see the letter from TCC will read it. I only used the MSU as a reference.

I posted the following on Facebook please feel free to copy and post on your own Facebook, Twitter or any social media you may use. If everyone could please do me a favor and share this file BSA TCC Rejects BSA's proposed settlement plan. https://www.pszjlaw.com/.../BSA%20TCC%20letter%20re... As many of you may or not know the Boy Scouts of America are in Bankruptcy. They have proposed to give the Child Sexual Victims which are victims of their programs just pennies on the dollar for the value of the claims. While it may seem like a lot of money there are over 82,000 victims who have come forward. If you had been raped as a child, gone thru a life of mental torture under this plan you would only receive $57,000. Victims of Larry Nasser and USA Gymnastics received $1,000,000. The BSA Torts Claimant Committee (TCC) is made up of victims of Child Sexual Abuse while with the BSA by BSA volunteers, professionals and older scouts. Unfortunately this story has not gotten the press coverage that it deserves. PSZJLAW.COM www.pszjlaw.com

Copied From @CynicalScouter Post I posted about this in June. There is still some confusion. The official name was the Ineligible Volunteer Files (IVF). A person could be added to the IVF for a variety of reasons, https://documents.latimes.com/boy-scouts-paper-trail-of-abuse-documents/ There were six categories Perversion Morals Financial Leadership Theft Criminal Clearly for purposes of the sexual abuse lawsuit(s) going back into the 1990s, some of these were more relevant than others. The "Perversion" files, while the biggest subset, were not the ONLY subset, however people mislabel ALL the IVF files as the "perversion" files. Edited August 11 by CynicalScouter

Does anyone have or have seen any letter from a coalition lawyer giving an argument to vote on the plan?

If 10 year old Johnny showed 10 year old John a porn mag that he stole from his father that is not child abuse. If twenty year old Johnny showed thirteen year old John a porn magazine and wanted to see his reaction to it (physical reaction) that is child abuse. I would like to add though that the behavior of a 10 year old showing another 10 year old a porn mag is not behavior to be tolerated.

That is exactly what I am saying. this would be behavior that would have to be addressed especially to the owner of the material. It is still not sexual abuse. That would have to be explained to parents.

I think that if behavior occurred within the parameters of what I outlined I am pretty sure the parent would agree that it was abuse.

if it wasn't for the pleasure of the one showing then no abuse.

Agreed that would be not described as 2 10 years olds talking about sex but rather one ten year old telling another 10 year old about how she is abused. a ten year old telling another they saw mom and boyfriend kissing is not.

I have seen postings where casually it is said you really can not eliminate it. It feels like the posters are saying we must expect some abuse.

Any time a scout was exposed to or imposed upon something of a sexual nature that was unwanted by the scouter. That would include being given pornography where it was given for the pleasure of the giver (wanting to see the reaction). I cannot get graphic here.

This is not at all what I am demanding. I want a zero tolerance for child sexual abuse.

Exactly

As I don’t view 2 10 year olds having a conversation about sex as Child Sexual Abuse I think the SE is at fault.

I think I understand what you are saying but can we agree to having zero tolerance for CSA. Please.

As I said quoted wrong post. Post I tried to quote was gone. Yes obscenity and jokes might be inappropriate and harmful but not child sexual abuse. I don’t think MJ was tearing up because he could not prevent sexual jokes and obscenity or consensual sex.

I think that the words “These allegations represents reports of abuse between an alleged victim and an alleged abused” would all that would be necessary.

I am pretty sure we are not talking about hey mine is bigger than yours LOL between boys.