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No news to report on this side of the aisle.

I'd be willing to bet alot of the western region DE's are LDS. There's a reason we call BYU the DE School....they pump out professionals.

90% of their council is LDS? Sorry, but no sympathy for those guys. They've been riding easy streak their whole careers.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2019/09/05/utah-boy-scouts-lay-off/

https://www.hsri.com/forms/High Resolution Brochures/Council.pdf here you go, friend

Insurance question? My time to shine! Here is the expert from the BSA Council Accident and Sickness insurance plan: "Only non-scouts, non-scouters or guests who are being encouraged to become Leaders or Scouts are automatically covered while in attendance at a meeting or unit activity or while traveling as a group to or from such an activity. No other guests are covered." I've heard this is only a one time use coverage too.

If I could call Mike, I would lol

facilitated by a BSA professional. Well that seems odd? National Pro's are so out of touch it's not even funny, this seems like a better spot for one of the national commissioner folks. And to echo some of the other posters, Dallas ignores volunteers and council pro's all the time, what makes us think they are going to listed to what Scouts have to say?

Ouch. MCC must be in some serious financial trouble.

It's always been the unofficial rule that for Volunteers it's a max of 3 rows and for Professionals it's a max of one row. Again, that's unofficial. But I think anything that goes over is too "look at me"

The most surprising thing out of all of this is that a unit actually followed the correct procedure and submitted a fundraising application

AKA the money ran out.

This is actually an interesting theory I have thought about too, but in a different way. I think one of the big reasons we are seeing the rise of "Mega Councils" (ie. Chicago, Michigan, St. Louis, Indy) is to create a larger corporate structure of Professionals to offset the lack of Volunteers in the BSA now. In a lot of places, DE's are just trying to keep afloat sinking Districts.

When I was talking to the National Director of Cub Scouting, he said they are moving away from the rank specific uniform items, minus the neckerchief and hat. They are just trying to get rid of inventory.

Personally, what the heck is the $24 "held by the council then billed to national"?? Also, charging units a "council support fee" is such BS....

Ah the song of my people. TBH, I don't think the starting salary is that bad if you're not terrible at managing money. The real kicker is promotions and raises. That's where a lot of good people leave because they don't want to wait 4-8 years to get a decent, family supporting position in a field they actually want. No body wants to be a ground pounding DE forever. I could go on and on about Pro life, but I digress for now.

It is....and the unfortunate part is that this seems to be a trend i'm seeing with multiple GSUSA councils

See, that's where BSA confuses me. in the FAQ's of the barriers to abuse it says exactly that, but then a few questions down is says Lion/Tiger adult partners don't meet the two deep requirement at Den meetings. A straight up contradiction. What if a Den meeting is also a fundraising event? How do you know what events are and aren't OK to substitute a parent?! Sorry for Hijacking the thread.

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Yessir. "Two registered adult leaders 21 years of age or over are required at all Scouting activities, including meetings."

*Sigh* The Organization is still called Boy Scouts of America. Just the 11-17 program is now called Scouts BSA

RIP those DE's

At the end of the day, mixing dens is a better experience for the youth, and isn't that why we are all doing this? What's National going to do? Send guys like me out to revoke charters if a boy and girl associate with each other at a Den meeting?

*whispers* Co-Ed Dens are the norm in the field.

Officially, I would say only once since they are covered under BSA insurance as a non-registered guest for only one visit.