Col. Flagg

...and this is why knots should be limited. You'll end up looking like this. 17 knots? Really?

Alps Mountaineering Tauras AL 4 mans. They will give troops a decent price point. As I recall we paid $150/tent. We've had Alps for over 18 years now and seem to replace every 6-7 years. Just recycled out tents a few years back after 8 years of use. Gotta agree. And they stand up to boy wear and tear well. In my area the ground can be rough, so we use Tyvek ans lightweight ground cover which helps the tents longevity.

@@4CouncilsScouter, if the young man has done NYLT, NAYLE and has been active in Venturing leadership -- and I assume been active in Ventring for a while -- I am not sure they will get much out of WB. Some councils do a good job of mimicking the patrol method in WB training, and the tickets will be projects that Venturing folks are used to, so there's that small nugget. But if they have any exposure to Boy Scouts and the patrol method, WB will bore them and might even be beneath them. I had an Eagle Scout who went and was bored to tears.

Ah, no. 6-8" cat hole, a tree to hug and biodegradable TP and I am all set. If I wanted to go in a cat box I'd visit by brother's house.

Respectfully disagree. The cost is $975 for the week. That's what the councils are billed. As @@Snow Owl pointed out most of the costs for sightseeing in DC is free, though Lord knows the food is expensive. When you compare what life-changing experiences you can have elsewhere, the cost of Jamboree is exorbitant. I sent 10 Scouts to AK to go glacier climbing for $1600/person for a week. That included gear, food, etc. I'd pay much more to send them to fight the crowds at Bechtel for a week. Been there, done that. IHMO by comparison it's not worthy it...or reasonable. Now if you have $$$

The master class is good, but I am not about to pack my poo out. Just sayin' they can get a little overly eager in their conservation.

Do it! You will regret it if you don't. You know the system and know how it should be run.

I would agree that this would fit the Life requirement for three conservation-related service hours. There's no definition for what those service hours must entail but I think this idea would meet that requirement. Well done.

@@DadScouts, great thoughts. IF he's really motivated, this award would be quite a feather to wear.

Picturing some Luddite Scouter reading this and looking for a chimpanzee costume with a mail bag to he can hand out fliers and the next RT.

Except that the requirements for the National Outdoor Award for Conservation says specifically: Complete 25 hours of conservation work under the auspices and standards of the Boy Scouts of America, including hours worked as part of requirements 1 through 3. So it would have to be a Boy Scout program of some sort. If just teaching "kids" then it can't count. However, you CAN count hours that one might accrue under Requirements 1-3: Conservation service hours getting to First Class rank. Any hours spent using the tools in Requirement #2. Hours spent working on projects for the merit ba

That's instructing, not service IMHO.

Program Guides, meetings in a box, calendars mapped to the requirements by rank, by month. All of these things are tools that have been created that parents can use to deliver their program if they want. Most parents are in the same boat. They are thrust in to Cub Scouts with little to no clue on who the program works, what the badges mean, etc. HOWEVER, spending time online, digging through a few forums, asking questions of other DLs and making use of the tools available give those parents who really care to look all they need to develop and manage a decent Den program. I agree better

I applaud him taking the course. He will certainly learn a great deal and become a great advocate for outdoor ethics. While the training is not required, the Leave No Trace and Tread Lightly are noted as "Basic Training". While the BSA does not come out and say it, it is expected that Outdoor Ethics Guides take these two modules at a minimum. There are a few other suggested training here. We suggest to all our guides to take these modules to help them perform their role best. It would be very hard to be an outdoor ethics advocate without taking these. Taking training is simply trainin

Exactly. Funny how the uniform option becomes compulsory and no one at council or national bats an eye. At the price @@Back Pack mentions, I wouldn't go to Jambo either...Scout or adult. For adults, add in the loss of 5-7 days of vacation time. Maybe this is why going to Jambo is so expensive.

Guidelines would be nice, as in "must be environmental related" or something like that.

Girl led, no doubt.

From what I have seen that pretty much describes most threads here after page 5.

As much as abhor citing Wikipedia, here's what they said. Assuming they are correct, not sure Tigers were ever Kindergarten.

I went in 1977. Rained for a week. I would say it was okay, might have changed my mind had it been sunny. For the money spent now a days, I am not sure I would go. I'd rather get away from the crowds and get out to nature. A trip to Alaska, Wyoming, Colorado or Phiilmont would be more my speed. See nature, do fun stuff and have an adventure. Jambo was crowds, waiting, etc. If you are going just to say you went, then great. If you are going and expecting a life-changing event I think you will be disappointed. I was but you may not be.

There's a few big assumptions here. Webelos/Troop Relations: I agree that there should be more Webelos/Troop activities, BUT that has to be part of the Webelos DL outreach; not something you burden the troop leaders with. Afterall, it is technically the Webelos program. Now, a smart troop would already be reaching out to the Webelos in their area on a regular basis and not just during recruiting season. Webelos Parent Burn Out: I'd say that's about the same for every CS parent. But who is to say that the troop you are about to burden with 4th and 5th graders (Webelos) can 1) handle the

I think you are missing @@fred johnson's point. The UMC is welcome to open their Boy Scout doors to whoever they please. That's policy that the BSA gives them. The members of that scout unit must abide by the UMC beliefs. So if the UMC folks believed in eating bacon three times a day as part of their religious observance, I don't think the Muslim and Jewish scouts would want to stay, and the church could exclude them under BSA policy.

From the BSA prior to the the change in the 2013 membership policy. Note the red text. "The policy change under discussion would allow the religious, civic, or educational organizations that oversee and deliver Scouting to determine how to address this issue. The Boy Scouts would not, under any circumstances, dictate a position to units, members, or parents. Under this proposed policy, the BSA would not require any chartered organization to act in ways inconsistent with that organization’s mission, principles, or religious beliefs."

Wow...that's scary. That means that FB is keeping a database when you tag someone and using their facial scanning algorithm to find their face in other photos you post. That's interesting the ACLU has not been all over this issue, but I guess they're too busy doing other non-essential stuff. So I could post a picture of you, tag you and then your face is in FB's system and you can do nothing about it. That's a HUGE infringement of one's civil liberties and right to privacy. I notice that they have not rolled this out to Germany and a few other countries that have strict privacy laws.