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  1. As RichardB stated, it's been out since May 1st of last year, but there was not a lot of fanfare about it until recently. I got a heads up from a friend because I made comments on how Cubs won't be able to advance unless they go council events, and not every council offers aquatic events. On a personal note, while I agree with what RichardB says about the various certs needed to conduct aquatic activities, I STRONGLY RECOMMEND SOMEONE IN YOUR UNIT TAKING BSA'S TWO AQUATIC SUPERVISION COURSES! Those two courses are a lot more hands on and really helped. Lifeguard cert is good for pools, but
  2. Yes, selecting a new SM is a trying process. Especially when the SM is a long time Scouter who has the respect of everyone, but just doesn't have the health to be as active as he wants.
  3. The leaders say they believe in the patrol method. But they also say the Scouts are not ready yet to take charge. CO also wants one of their members as SM. Current SM's health is poor, and he really needs to step down. Only 1 other leader is a member, and I am hoping he gets appointed in the near future. I helped train him, and he was in a youth led unit growing up.
  4. Agree with you regarding training and especially with ILS-T. Troop did it in January 2015 and all SPLs since were in attendance at it. It does not really prepare them for the office. I've asked someone with an extensive training background to add to the ILS-T format from the leadership courses he took and taught. But maybe the old Troop Leader Training should be considered. I know there is talk of sending folks to NYLT in 2017 since 2016 is full. I think the frustration with some of the adults is the lack of patience. At times I believe that the adults want adult level results from the
  5. Well "Patrols" is one of the methods of Scouting that the CO agrees to implement. The challenge as I see it is that adults do not think they are ready to take charge. Question is this: HOW DO THEY GET READY TO TAKE CHARGE IF THE ADULTS DO EVERYTHING FOR THEM? (emphasis, not shouting) I'll give you an example from the part of the meeting I was at. An adult was going over land nav, trip planning, and backpacking meal planning. That leader was short, to the point, and really asked questions about how the Scouts would do XYZ. While I think an older Scout could have done that, since the plan wi
  6. So, I feel like a highwire act again in more ways than one. New SPL and PLC have not met yet. 2 meetings ago, it was the most boring meeting as the SM lectured on the parts of a canoe. Plus there was no game time or patrol time: Opening, 1:20 of pure lecture, and Closing. YAWN. Several days after the meeting, I asked the SPL what his plans were and he didn't have any. I gave some suggestions on topic and presenter, but the presenter I suggested was out of town too. So Oldest gave a presentation on packing a pack for a river trip. OK it was a last minute preparation, and he did OK. There w
  7. Here are some links to vintage knots, and ranks, in different colored backgrounds. http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCOUT-BSA-SCOUTERS-TRAINING-AWARD-KNOT-ON-SEA-SCOUTING-WHITE-EXPLORING-EXPLORER-/391469348274?hash=item5b256435b2:g:Qz4AAOSw0gdXS44j http://www.ebay.com/itm/KNOT-SCOUTERS-KEY-prior-1978-for-wear-on-the-SEA-SCOUT-BLUE-UNIFORM-INSIGNIA-/331851692918?hash=item4d43e6fb76:g:YdkAAOSwoydWjEpE http://www.ebay.com/itm/KNOT-Scouters-Training-Award-prior-1978-Sea-Scout-Blue-Uniform-INSIGNIA-OA-BSA-/331851692922?hash=item4d43e6fb7a:g:G4YAAOSw~OVWyDlR http://www.ebay.com/itm/Star-Rank-
  8. Does anyone have problems with Scouts and leaders wearing vintage uniforms? I know for my wife's 1950s den mother uniform, I could not find all original patches from that era. I had to use a reproduction or two to make the uniform "authentic." And even then, I still could not find reproductions I could afford for everything. Yes, I'm using vintage 70's/80s fully embroidered red numbers instead of yellow and blue numbers of the 1950s. So I have no problems with Ships' Stores and others who make reproductions of the pre-1970s Sea Scout white background, Sea Scout navy background, and Explori
  9. Love the video. THANK YOU! Both the pack and troop I'm with assisted the American Legion with setting up flags at the cemetery today. On Monday both units will be taking them down. As for my hoodlums, on Monday they will be going to the Memorial Day Service.
  10. @@UncleP 1) WELCOME TO DA FORUMS! (and yes I'm yelling at ya in joy ) 2) THANK YOU FOR TAKING CARE OF YOUR NEPHEW! (again yelling at you in joy! ) One of my Eagles was in a similar situation, but worse. It got so bad that while dad signed the paperwork to join the USAF at age 17, dad also kicked him out of the house because he did not want his son joining the USAF. Between when he joined and boot camp, and then the return from boot camp to when he graduated HS and went active duty, he was living at the SM's house. 3) As others have stated, Eagle is not the goal in Scouts. It is
  11. CANNOT AGREE WITH THIS MORE AS IT IS110% SPOT ON! (Caps for emphasis!) In the dark ages when I was a den chief, the worse problem I had was the first DL I was with did not know what to do with me and treated me as another Cub Scout. Thankfully I was able to switch to working with another den the next school year. My only problem I ever had with den chiefs is over enthusiasm. Had him teach a class on introductory camping, and he brought all his backpacking toys for the class. Thankfully I had my gear as well (I asked everyone bring their stuff) and we worked together to teach the cla
  12. I'm going from memory, so bear with me. When a CO dropped their pack like a hot potato while I was a DE, the CO gave the pack X months to get their stuff and find a new home. basically it was the end of the school year, May. That left 7 months on their charter, and they were good according to my boss.
  13. I admit I've used an occasional word accidentally. I vividly remember saying in a loud voice " Oh (expletive deleted)! [scout's name] is really in trouble!" when I had my accident a few months back. One thing I tried to do to avoid using the foudl language was use another language. Yes I learned a few words in Croatian, Russian, and Finnish. Only time I ever got in trouble was with the Croatian. I banged my hand letting a professor into the Gym and said something in Croat. He looked at me, and asked "Did I just call him...." To my embarrasment, I told him I tried to use Croatian et al sinc
  14. I wish my challenging Scouts were like that. They I know how to handle. Probably because that was me and my troop growing up. That's the challenge: how to get the kids to get away from always going to mom and dad. I handed out camp schedules last nite, and one of the two immediately went to his dad to give him the schedule.
  15. Growing up, my troop's SPL basically assigned folks to patrols. Initially it was essentially the first person to welcome them to the meeting. Over time we got a "feeder pack" and we would divide up the folks, teaming them up with an "experienced" Scout in the patrol to teach them and be with them at the meeting, and later on at the survival camp out. 9/10 the new Scout would join the patrol the did the survival camp out with. We were mixed aged patrols. Every 6 months we would do troop and patrol elections. After the SPL's election, we all had the chance to switch patrols if we wanted to.
  16. Why did your instructors say to omit BSA's second oldest program? Sorry, but any website that omits Sea Scouts is incomplete. Sea Scouts in the USA is 104 years old this year older than the OA.
  17. Yes, more problems than just these two as my other thread shows. Multiple adults told them to get their act together. Heck I even commented about performances at BORs for them. But the Gunship swoops in. And they are working the system quite well as dad is a facilitator. In one case, Scout sneaks in phone and calls mom at 1AM saying how horrible summer camp is, and momma drives over and picks ups first thing. Going to get interesting this camp since we are going to be about 1:30-2:00 away one-way instead of 45 minutes.
  18. You never know. We had a Scout growing up switch troops and 2 years later came back to us. Challenge was that the rest of the patrol was suffering, and suffering miserably, because of these two.They would not listen to their PLs or their TGs, only to adults. Now grant you, we had one TG who became a challenge himself, and my son whose philosophy was to let them learn the hard way. But the adults, one in particular, would either come to their rescue or start yelling at his son. Funny thing is son does better when dad is not around. Originally the plan was to place them with one
  19. Yep that's the typical DE. And yes, if you don't make your goals, you won't last long at all. MONEY, MEMBERSHIP, MANPOWER was the mantra.
  20. Not saying it can't be done. I too have seen this done. What I am saying is that part of the issues with the NSP was preparedness for Scouting. The three packs had different ways of doing things, and that has affected the dynamics of the patrol. 1 pack starts the transition process in May of the 3rd grade year, essentially when pack moves up a level. They are active in the summer, and they are acting like and treated like Boy Scouts. 1 pack starts the process essentially between October and January of 4th grade. Both of those packs generally move the Scouts up in December of 5t
  21. YOUR SON (emphasis) has to do what he has to do. You just need to let him make the decision since it is his scouting career. A little background, my son visited a troop very familiar to yours. He wasn't too thrilled and looked around. Troop he wanted to join went Trails Life, so we are on choice #2. Things started out OK if challenging, troop was restarting and not enough adult support. In 2 years, troop has tripled in size, but with the tripleing came issues, specifically the new NSP came from 3 different packs and 5 different dens. And they were at various levels of preparedness for Scou
  22. Seen the retaliation against whistleblowers up close: one long term scouter and one professional. Long term Scouter had his membership permanently revoked, do not know all the details on that but have ideas. Professional caught fraud issues and was "rewarded" with a promotion to a SE position for a council that was smaller than the service area one of the FDs he supervised had. Yep, went from a DFS of a metro council to SE of one of the smallest councils in the nation.
  23. Sorry I'm late to the party. As some know I'm dealing with similar issues, but with adults. However I came over here because of a conversation I had with son this weekend, and the way one Scout is acting in his patrol. @@Beavah made the comment "you can't save the child from his parents," and from what son is telling me, This Scout is starting to mirror his dad in attitude and in doing things. Hoping to get some ideas. My thoughts. 1. Each situation is different as each Scout is different. There really is no one size fits all. 2. From my experiences growing up, and my conversations
  24. My troop growing up essentially had the same SM for 25 years. There was a 2 year stint where he was officially an ASM because he was OA Lodge Adviser. But the SM who took over didn't do the job and he resigned as OA LA to get the troop back on track. That was just before my time with the troop, and I found out about the situation talking to the past Lodge chief who was on camp staff with me. As you know, we have a SM who has been it for 30+ years, and an ASM for 20+ years before that. He needs to step down, but no one has the cajones to talk him into resigning, including me. I think I got
  25. I've met some good Eagles, and I've met some "need some work" Eagles. With the "need some work" group, just because they are Eagle doesn't mean you can't mentor and work with them still. And notice I didn't say "young" or "old."
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