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  1. jc2008

    NYLT Syllabus Question

    Thanks guys! Our course seems to always be youth lacking for staff (we only have one course a year and they are not quite full 35-ish) and we literally ask basically anyone who is eligible and we can work with for staff (work with, ie they don't have to be the best, but they have the willingness to work for it). We seem to end up being a bit adult top heavy, as the adults end up handling the Quartermaster/Scribe type duties since our youth are busy being TGs and ASPL/SPL. Lucky we have a good bunch of adults (a few husband/wife teams) who know how to fade into the background. Im putting together our staff notebook (with daily schedules/cliff notes) so in re-reading the syllabus, I always discover things I want to be able to explain in my cliff notes so the youth as quick access to refreshers during the course or while walking from one place to another lol.
  2. jc2008

    NYLT Syllabus Question

    Thanks so much. Can I ask a question about how many Participants/Youth staff/Adult staff your course usually carries?
  3. Reading through everything, everytime you read a syllabus, different stuff pops out at you! On day 3 - In the Schedule for Dinner it says : Conducted with explanation. Ties into Leading Yourself. It has this same note for Day 2 Scouts' Own on the schedule. Now, I understand that in Scouts' Own there is an instructional that can cover this, but on Day 3 dinner, after the youth staff have already been to day 1 and day 2 dinners with the youth, what exactly are they looking for here? Just to making concious comments on how the patrol is taking care of itself etc? Nothing is mentioned in the syllabus about conducting that dinner with explanation or how to handle that. What am I missing here? (PS, how many youth staff do you send to each patrol at mealtime? In the past our course has not followed that part of the syllabus and just fed youth staff with the adults at the dining hall for most meals and sending some staff to check in on patrols at their campsites. SPL wants to go BY THE SYLLABUS this year, and I totally get why having staff join patrols at meal times can be super important. I am also assuming its youth staff that go out and have meals with patrols, do some courses also send the adult staff?)
  4. What does a council training chair need to take/have in order to wear the "trained" patch, besides YPT of course.. I see the district training committee workshop training syllabus, but not a council one.
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    Concurrent registration as Cub Scout and Boy Scout

    You have to be first class To be a den chief.
  6. Split the tiger den up immediately. You don't encourage people to step up (heck I wouldn't with 23 kids!) neither is it a productive meeting for the kids. Run the first den meeting for each tiger den to show the parents how simple it can be. Break out a calendar at end of meeting and have each parent sign up to host and plan a meeting. With 8 families and 2 meetings a month (keep it simple, they can up the number when they are more confident) that is 4 months done. You can point out if no one hosts and plans the meeting then there simply won't be one, they usually gets parents motivated. And if they walk away, it's sad for the kid but the parent wouldn't have been a valuable asset anywys.
  7. This is exactly why we have two deep leadership at all times! Any report by any child should be taken seriously and investigated by police (not BSA). You should always believe the child and report, and let law enforcement figure it out. And if the leaders are following two deep leadership rules then the second leader can verify That the adult is innocent. If you are alone with the scouts and one accuses you of something Then you aren't following the rules and its your head...
  8. jc2008

    New Way Funding

    So basically after the perks you are giving around $70 to council for a year of scouting and no fos requests. With installments that doesn't seem terrible for a year long program. Popcorn is more for the units rather than council. After all out of their "third" comes the freight cost and incentives they offer, not to mention employee hours administrating the sale. And if a council sells a ton of popcorn then it's the units that are majorly benefitting anyways. That same fee for leaders would be ridiculous. Already have problems getting people to pay or having to use the units money to pay for volunteers, so much so that lots of adults are unregistered.
  9. Thanks I was wondering about no first aid and such in the syllabus. Will take a look and make it work, we are expecting a larger than usual class this year
  10. Reading syllabus for the 1.5 day iols and had a question.. There don't appear to be round robins so the entire course is all Doing the same activity at once ? We need to make sure patrol guides are Experts in all instead of finding experts for Each activity? How did your course run ?
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    To staff woodbadge or not

    Yes, you will get wife aggro. But it can help you see the course in a whole new way and learn more the second time around when you aren't rushed and feeling like your head is going to explode. It would be good to do, but its the 2 weekends of the course + being there a day before participants + a few staff developments, one of which is most likely an overnight.
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    Who owns troop gear?

    We are taking about where a troop meets and its "stuff". What we need to be talking about is WHAT IS BEST FoR THE YOUTH! If the sm is unhappy or uncomfortable with the church, move. The church doesn't seem Overly involved as the cor don't have any Idea much about their scout troop as op stated. Ops son WANTS to be in the troop so obviously something is being done right If kids want to be in troop. No one is trying to run off with the troops stuff that belongs to the co to have for Personal use. The stuff is still being used by the scouts and again what is best for the youth Comes up again. I would stop trying to stir the pot about item ownership if the things in question are still being used For their intended purpose: To Give the youth a good scouting program As for the other complaints, when adults cannot get along in units, there is one easy solution which is for The adults who are unhappy to form a new unit. More often than not you get a new found respect for all The grievances you had with the old regime.
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    Scout O Rama ideas

    Do you have a range master ? Slingshots with paintballs at targets. We do rockets for ours. Blast car demo ? First aid? Magic tricks demo where the scouts use explain demonstrate guide and enable to teach simple magic tricks Human fooseball Woggle making using patacord and knots like the turkshead Since your boys just sit there like lumps of coal find something that is interesting to them and have them show others..
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    a questionable Leader

    Regardless of how the man is behaving, I would also not like to work with a Scout who doesn't want to participate. As a leader, I am there to help teach the kids and teach them leadership skills. Not to force them to do something or try to treat behavioral issues. I am not trained as a child psychologist. Behavior is up to the parents. I do run our popcorn sales and if I have a child who doesn't want to do anything, I send them home and they don't come back until they want to be there. Its not a babysitting service after all!
  15. jc2008

    Very Small Pack

    we run a combined program for a large pack. You can use the combined program delivery system: http://www.scouting.org/filestore/multicultural/pdf/523-006_web.pdf and just modify it for the dens you do have (take out the parts for the dens you do not have boys for). They give examples of activities to run or you can make up your own activities to illustrate the same ideas.
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