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    Contagious Disease Outbreaks

    While comparisons to stomach bugs and other illnesses may be helpful, it is important to note that diseases like measles seem to be very different. 1. People who have contracted measles are contagious for four days before symptoms appear; by contrast, patients infected with the flu are contagious for just one day before symptoms appear. Checking glands and temperatures upon arrival will not catch measles in advance; by the time infected people are found, others have already been exposed. 2. Unlike the flu, there is no "season" for diseases like measles. While it may spread faster in the cold months, the current outbreaks in Europe have flourished during summer. 3. While hygiene and sanitation play a key role in stomach bugs, flu, etc., they may not help as much with measles. Once an infected person leaves a room, the viral particles in the air may remain viable for up to two hours. 4. While the vast majority of people will recover from measles, there is a small risk of fatalities. There is also a small risk of permanent vision, heart or neurological problems. There is also a small risk of virus reactivation years after the initial occurrence; if this happens, it is always fatal and there is no treatment. Camps probably have not had to deal with the likes of measles since the 1950s, so this is essentially new ground (outbreaks of mumps and whooping cough are also occurring). At this point, it is unlikely that BSA will require the immunizations that are currently recommended. Even if they were required, people could write in fake dates in the immunization sections of health forms (if the doctors left them blank). So, camps, along with their state health departments, may need to consider a number of questions, the answers of which may vary, depending on the disease. Should infected people go to the health lodge or should the health staff go to the infected people (perhaps, to minimize exposure to others)? Should all people without vaccination for the disease in question be sent home, or just those with symptoms, or close proximity to the infected persons? Should unvaccinated people be restricted from coming to camp during the following week of camp? At what point would a camp be closed entirely and for how long? Refund policies?
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    Contagious Disease Outbreaks

    The purpose of the original post was to see if camps had policies in place for future outbreaks. The absence of outbreaks in the past is irrelevant when vaccination rates are declining to the point where "herd immunity" is decaying. For measles, herd immunity requires a vaccination rate of 90-95% and many areas are already well below that (see map). A single nurse isn't going to be able to handle a situation where 10% or more of the children in a large camp are infected. Furthermore, measles patients are contagious four days before symptoms appear. BSA has a religious component, so presumably it will respect non-vaccination choices for religious reasons, whether they are ostensible or not. So, should camps have at least written policies in place indicating what will happen if (or when) an outbreak occurs? Map source: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/a-quiet-rise-in-unvaccinated-children-could-put-the-u-s-at-risk-of-outbreaks
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    Scouting ties in the Trump Administration

    "The first leg of a July 2017 trip from Andrews Air Force Base to West Virginia was likely for a Boy Scouts event, where Tillerson, an Eagle Scout, was being honored." Rex Tillerson Spent $1 Million In Taxpayer Money Flying Around The Country, Watchdog Group Estimates
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    Contagious Disease Outbreaks

    The religious exemptions may be involved in the outbreaks in Rockland County and Brooklyn, as they are primarily impacting the orthodox Jewish communities there; non-immunized people recently returned from Israel, where an outbreak is occurring. Apart from this, anti-vax people are increasingly using the religious exemptions for their children.
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    Contagious Disease Outbreaks

    Unvaccinated Students in Rockland County, New York, Told to Stay Home Following Measles Outbreak With declining vaccination rates, it seems summer camps will likely face outbreaks in the near future. Do camps have procedures in place to deal with them, such as sending unvaccinated personnel home, etc.? With measles, there is a 90% chance of infection for susceptible people who are exposed.
  6. Consumer Product Safety Commission: Boy Scouts of America Recalls Neckerchief Slides Due to Violation of Federal Lead Content Ban https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2018/boy-scouts-of-america-recalls-neckerchief-slides-due-to-violation-of-federal-lead
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    Help with stain!

    Rubbing alcohol might work, but this example may have used a stain that didn't go through the dryer: https://www.marthastewart.com/908676/how-remove-ink-stain Perhaps you could look into dry cleaning?
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    Stain on Uniform!

    https://www.esquire.com/style/advice/a43771/grease-stains/
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    Scouting ties in the Trump Administration

    Rex Tillerson's $12 million army of consultants "The cost-cutting former Secretary of State had grand ambitions for a department ‘redesign,’ but its clearest impact is a huge bill for consultants, some of whom charged more than $300 an hour." https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/05/tillerson-state-department-consultants-503557
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    Scouting ties in the Trump Administration

    Fired FBI official authorized criminal probe of Sessions, sources say http://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-fired-fbi-official-authorized-criminal-probe-sessions/story?id=53914006
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    Scouting ties in the Trump Administration

    Sessions' own lack of candor is why he had to recuse himself from the Russia probe: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/report-sources-say-sessions-misled-on-russia-meeting.html
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    Scouting ties in the Trump Administration

    Speaking of Sessions, he just fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, two days before he qualified for his pension: https://www.npr.org/2018/03/16/571671917/justice-department-fires-embattled-fbi-deputy-director-just-short-of-retirement
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    Scouting ties in the Trump Administration

    John Kelly: Rex Tillerson Was on the Toilet When I Told Him He’d Be Getting Fired https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-kelly-rex-tillerson-was-on-the-toilet-when-i-told-him-hed-be-getting-fired/
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    Scouting ties in the Trump Administration

    That leaves Ryan Zinke (Interior), AG Jeff Sessions and Rick Perry (Energy, possibly moving to the VA). Zinke has had his own travel controversy, so he might be next. Sessions will probably be gone after the Mueller probe concludes. So far, Perry seems to have stayed relatively under the radar.
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    Scouting ties in the Trump Administration

    If Tillerson speaks to American youth, the youth should take him to task for not being courteous by not returning phone calls, etc.
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