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  1. It looks like the ban imposed by GSNC on the Valley Stream troop originated from its board of directors. A comment in the news story mentions that some board members are elected officials in the village. My count of the board bios includes a former mayor, a current trustee, and two current education trustees. Not only are they blocking members of their organization, but their constituents, too.
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    It appears there are several spring Scouting for Food events that may involve Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts: https://www.austindailyherald.com/2019/03/scouts-collecting-food-this-weekend-will-be-coming-to-residences-saturday-morning/ "Members of the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts will pick up the items to be delivered to the Salvation Army Food Pantry." https://www.davisenterprise.com/community/scouts-gather-food-for-steac/ "Davis Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are hosting a food drive..." https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/howard/ellicott-city/ph-ho-n-clarksville-0314-story.html "Be on the lookout for a Scouting for Food “hang tag” at your home requesting food donations. Boy Scouts, Cub Scouts, Venturing Crew members and Girl Scouts will return..." It may be possible that "Girl Scouts" is used to refer to girls in Scouts BSA. If they are Girl Scouts, will they be participating while in GSUSA uniform? By the way, Scouting for Food is a registered BSA trademark: http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4807:96qkth.2.1
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    2014: "In the past five years or so, Girl Scout councils across the country, backed by the parent organization Girl Scouts of the USA (GSUSA), have put up for sale more than 200 camps in 30 states—more than a third of Girl Scouts properties with acreage are threatened. The regional councils defend the sales by citing the rising costs of maintenance. And, they say, today’s girls aren’t as interested in camping." https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-are-girl-scout-camps-being-closed
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    That 10-15% probably includes day camp, weekend camping and summer (residential) camp. When residential camp participation drops below 10%: "Soots said last fall that fewer than 10 percent of the council’s girl members attend a resident camp." Girl Scouts circulate petition in effort to save camps https://www.semissourian.com/story/2579947.html
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    "Are camps being sold to pay for the pension expense? Camping is and will always be an essential part of Girl Scouting. The decision to sell or close a camp is made entirely by local councils on the basis of usage, maintenance costs, availability of other camp property, and other factors. Approximately 10 to 15 percent of our members participate in camp experiences as part of Girl Scouting." (emphasis added) https://www.girlscouts.org/en/faq/faq/national-gs-retirement.html
  6. https://www.whec.com/news/police-suspects-charged-in-bomb-plot-were-former-boy-scouts/5218855/
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    The Fort Lebanon scenes in that film were shot at Yawgoog Scout Reservation (BSA) in Rhode Island.
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    A 2014 article on GSUSA camp closures; it mentions a reduced role for outdoor learning within the organization: Why Are Girl Scout Camps Being Closed?
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    GSUSA seems to have officially distanced itself from outdoorsmanship. Quote: “Instead of focusing on past notions of ‘outdoorsmanship,’ ” the organization tries to help girls develop leadership skills in a way that suits them — for example learning to advocate for environmental protection, Girl Scouts Vice President Jennifer Allebach said in an email to The Washington Post. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/recruitment-war-raises-questions-about-what-it-means-to-be-a-girl-or-a-boy/2018/12/08/c3cac538-f700-11e8-8d64-4e79db33382f_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6942ba359a07
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    Contagious Disease Outbreaks

    Rockland measles cases hit 40; more unvaccinated kids ordered home "The 25 schools targeted — with more than 1,000 students — have under a 70 percent vaccination rate and students must remain home for 21 days after the last confirmed measles case."
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    Scouting ties in the Trump Administration

    Zinke’s own agency watchdog just referred him to the Justice Department
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    Contagious Disease Outbreaks

    While comparisons to stomach bugs and other illnesses may be helpful, it is important to note that diseases like measles seem to be very different. 1. People who have contracted measles are contagious for four days before symptoms appear; by contrast, patients infected with the flu are contagious for just one day before symptoms appear. Checking glands and temperatures upon arrival will not catch measles in advance; by the time infected people are found, others have already been exposed. 2. Unlike the flu, there is no "season" for diseases like measles. While it may spread faster in the cold months, the current outbreaks in Europe have flourished during summer. 3. While hygiene and sanitation play a key role in stomach bugs, flu, etc., they may not help as much with measles. Once an infected person leaves a room, the viral particles in the air may remain viable for up to two hours. 4. While the vast majority of people will recover from measles, there is a small risk of fatalities. There is also a small risk of permanent vision, heart or neurological problems. There is also a small risk of virus reactivation years after the initial occurrence; if this happens, it is always fatal and there is no treatment. Camps probably have not had to deal with the likes of measles since the 1950s, so this is essentially new ground (outbreaks of mumps and whooping cough are also occurring). At this point, it is unlikely that BSA will require the immunizations that are currently recommended. Even if they were required, people could write in fake dates in the immunization sections of health forms (if the doctors left them blank). So, camps, along with their state health departments, may need to consider a number of questions, the answers of which may vary, depending on the disease. Should infected people go to the health lodge or should the health staff go to the infected people (perhaps, to minimize exposure to others)? Should all people without vaccination for the disease in question be sent home, or just those with symptoms, or close proximity to the infected persons? Should unvaccinated people be restricted from coming to camp during the following week of camp? At what point would a camp be closed entirely and for how long? Refund policies?
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    Contagious Disease Outbreaks

    The purpose of the original post was to see if camps had policies in place for future outbreaks. The absence of outbreaks in the past is irrelevant when vaccination rates are declining to the point where "herd immunity" is decaying. For measles, herd immunity requires a vaccination rate of 90-95% and many areas are already well below that (see map). A single nurse isn't going to be able to handle a situation where 10% or more of the children in a large camp are infected. Furthermore, measles patients are contagious four days before symptoms appear. BSA has a religious component, so presumably it will respect non-vaccination choices for religious reasons, whether they are ostensible or not. So, should camps have at least written policies in place indicating what will happen if (or when) an outbreak occurs? Map source: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/a-quiet-rise-in-unvaccinated-children-could-put-the-u-s-at-risk-of-outbreaks
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    Scouting ties in the Trump Administration

    "The first leg of a July 2017 trip from Andrews Air Force Base to West Virginia was likely for a Boy Scouts event, where Tillerson, an Eagle Scout, was being honored." Rex Tillerson Spent $1 Million In Taxpayer Money Flying Around The Country, Watchdog Group Estimates
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    Contagious Disease Outbreaks

    The religious exemptions may be involved in the outbreaks in Rockland County and Brooklyn, as they are primarily impacting the orthodox Jewish communities there; non-immunized people recently returned from Israel, where an outbreak is occurring. Apart from this, anti-vax people are increasingly using the religious exemptions for their children.
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