There are a few points I am not clear on. If the SPL is not a member of a patrol, what do you do with him? Does he cook with the old goats ? If patrols go on separate hikes does he just sit in camp and twiddle his thumbs? If the adults are to keep their noses out of patrol organization, what happens if you get really even patrol sizes ? A NSP and no one wants to actually do the job of troop guide ? If on a campout 1,2 or 3 scouts from a patrol attend ?