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  1. Yeah I get the job of dealing with this as the new advancement chair and it's a lot of fun Point in my favor is that I have one of the oldest and most respected troop committee members/troop chaplain who sat on this board Each of the BOR members ad a heads up going into it that neither the parent, scout, sm nor adv chair could make them put a different date on the advancement form. That they had to unanimously decide if they were going to use a different date other than the date of the actual BOR. I also have made a spreadsheet showing PERFECT dates for each and every BOR = this man
  2. SM held 1/11/15 for scout's first bronze palm. court of honor end of February when advancement chair found out. first of march new advancement chair takes over sends scout info that a bor is required and we'd like to schedule it asap asks for him to complete eagle palm application and bring it the next week. March 7 scout shows, no book (can't hold him back on bor if no book and told him so) ask if he completed the eagle palm application, answers no suggests they sit down and write out the palm application so the BOR would know which 5 merit badges were being used for the palm. Scout
  3. Be careful and be on the lookout. If you have shy scouts, those who have trouble making friends, every time you mix up the patrols and don't let him hang out with the one friend he has, you risk losing him. Also when you talk about how to keep the older guys happy and maybe they can go on a longer backpacking trip when the younger guys are just hiking, you've already seen the signs of a need for an older scout "venture" patrol. Denying that it should exist, forcing the older guys to be in a patrol of younger guys when they didn't EACH individually be asked to mentor those young guys, is
  4. Trying to make a long story short, what do you do when the SM tells a scout that a BOR is NOT needed for an Eagle Palm, and there isn't an advancement sheet Nor the Eagle Palm application because the BOR members would have signed those docs It comes out at the next court of honor a month+ later when SM is mad that the scout didn't get his palm since the advancement chair didn't know to even go and buy the Palm. Do you do the BOR as soon as you get an Eagle Palm application from the scout? Do you date it for the date the BOR was actually done, or the date it should have been done?
  5. My oldest went to 2010 National Jamboree. He paid $500 because he got the spot when someone backed out, and council kept most of their money and sold the spot to my son. He had like a month to get ready. His favorite part was the pre-Jamboree tour around all the historical sights DC, NY, Boston the whole shebang, motor coach, all meals and hotel stays. He was sick for all of Jamboree, and nobody would buy the kid cold medicine so he was miserable the whole time. My youngest would like to do the tour, but didn't really want to do the Jamboree part. But I think it's $3500 and that's
  6. I emailed national advancement and didn't expect to get an answer. I basically sent just what the op above says and the answer I got today is "Simply, you are correct and your ASM/District Commissioner is incorrect. The FAQ’s located at www.scouting.org/programupdates under the Boy Scouting category answers this question."
  7. the council registrar is at fault for not catching, and their software should have caught it as well. So call the council registrar and her boss the scout executive to be sure it's known that it wasn't caught at various points along the way. but also call national and see what they say and get it in writing. People keep saying let your DE know, and I'm laughing at that, cause they know nothing about advancement and what to do about this. I've been membership chair and caught a 9 year old applying. They were transferring from cubs to boy scouts. It's easy to miss unless your membership
  8. I'm taking over advancement for the troop in March and I don't want him spreading rumors. Some are confused enough about the changes in ranks for 2016 they don't need to worry about anything extra.
  9. yeah I'm thinking that he needs to take Reading Comprehension in 2016
  10. Ok I know what BSA says about the new ranks for 2016+ http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/2016BoyScoutRequirements_8.14.2015.pdf and for transition to the new ranks http://www.scouting.org/filestore/program_update/pdf/Transitioning_New_Requirements_2016.pdf So I read that for those who are currently working on Star from 2015 they can continue to finish star with old requirements thru Dec 2016. Under the old requirements there is no need for Cyber Chip. correct? EXCEPT we have an ASM who is also a district commissioner so he likes to try to pull rank, and he's saying that he g
  11. We were going to change from scout accounts to a scout bucks prizes for fundraisers program. Sell within a certain range of popcorn and get a coupon for a campout, a higher sells numbers get a coupon for x% off summer camp. a certain range of sales, pays for your recharter for the year. so like sell $100-$200 in popcorn and get a campout coupon post flags for our flag program fundraiser and get two free campout coupons sell $250-400 get recharter paid sell $500 and get $100 off of summer camp. It was also going to include advancing in rank, get a free campout coupon, Getting ch
  12. In our pack meetings we always had sign in at the door so we knew who was there some displays of what the scouts have made or done over the past month gathering activity was a very simple craft, or game. something 5 minutes maybe we had themed neckerchief slides, often they were the gathering activity to make a neckerchief slide to wear for the month. So for October it would be make a ghost neckerchief slide with a piece of pvc cut thin for the slide part, take a square of white fabric, cotton balls in the middle, wrap around a pipe cleaner to make the head and attach to the pvc and sh
  13. Hugs to you and your family. The OA broken arrow ceremony is special if she was an OA member. We also had a funeral service that ended with all the verses of scout vespers which seemed to resonate. You may want to think of any other scout songs that she appreciated, heck if she was a campfire loving girl a solumn campfire program might be in order. She will be missed.
  14. I think a scout should say he's working on this requirement and wants to be patrol cook the whole weekend. Similarly if he's working on cooking merit badge he'd need/want to go ahead and do more cooking all at once rather than a meal here or there.
  15. Oh gosh, definitely sell popcorn. Right there at the spot where the busses pull up to let people off and pick them up. Set up a huge table and a bullhorn style obnoxious selling style is optional. Have each scout and parent go to each individual waiting for the bus and ask them to buy popcorn. When the park gets angry at you selling in a public park, then ask them isn't that exactly what the casinos are doing? Using a public park for Private business gain. I would focus on the traffic flow issue, and the safety issue of big buses pulling up to a city park full of kids running aroun
  16. Get out of the habit/mentality of one and done. It will be GOOD for the boys to repeat requirements, but doing them in a different way the 2nd time, so anyone who has already done it won't be bored, and anyone who hasn't done it yet will be able to finish the adventure. Have the boys that already did it one time work to teach it to their buddy that missed out whenever possible, which will help them take over the boy lead of boy scouting. Of course, sometimes you just don't have time to get everything done twice. So focus on repeating parts of required badges often enough for completio
  17. Thanks I enjoyed reading that! Congrats to Dick!
  18. google your council office, click around and find a contact us list Do you know what District you are in within your council? If so you need the District Executive for that District. If you do not know what district you are in, you can call the council office and talk to the registrar and they can tell you and let you know who to talk to. If that person doesn't call you back, you can work your way up the chain of command til you talk to the scout executive--or their secretary anyways. At our council all the District Executives stood up and changed chairs/offices and their numbers didn
  19. So YOU contact the prior troop and get the info and hand deliver it to the scoutmaster, and again ask if there is anything you or X committee member can do to help him with all the piles of paperwork so he can focus on the scouts. And if he doesn't help at that point with it all laid out easy for him,, then go find a different troop.
  20. We don't normally print blue cards, cause it is less expensive AND less time is involved to just buy them than to buy the blue cardstock, pay to print them(or buy ink) and then to cut them apart--and then you have to cut them apart as completed into each of the three segments as well. It's a bit of a hassle. Our council camp does like it when we print our own for summer camp, cause the three segments don't get separated as easily during summer camp stuff when there is a lot of wear on blue cards. Someone thought it was such a good idea to print them that they bought a box of blue cardsto
  21. @ We have had a few scouts in our district show up to their Eagle BOR with the blue cards for merit badges that had not been entered into internet advancement yet. And they still got their Eagle, cause the paperwork part screw up is an adult thing, and adult screw ups shouldn't hold up a boy from advancement. I think you need to request a copy of your son's advancement report directly from council office. Call them up and see if they will email you a pdf of it. That can be very useful so you can see how far back you need to go to get the troop records, the internet advancement records
  22. FYI @@Stosh I own the "right" color blue cardstock myself so I can print them the "right" color. But it's not necessary.
  23. I'd stick all the boys in the big tent together and have the adult tents as far away as you/parents can handle. And then when they are up all night long Friday night, Saturday night they will retire to sleep early and it will be nice and quiet the second night. Then when they are done with that, then borrow some smaller tents and have them buddy up two in a tent like the boy scouts and do similarly. So they can see more than one way to camp. Then pass the huge tent down to the next level boys so they can give it a try.
  24. or people just print them off, they don't have to be on blue paper.
  25. Yeah definitely don't toss his copy of the blue cards, keep them just in case. Always compare them to the date on the merit badge card he gets at court of honors and make sure everything matches. Better to catch that sooner than later. and we want troops to keep their copy and we hope merit badge counselors keep their copy. But as far as getting his Eagle, blue cards are used for proving he completed the merit badges and getting them entered on his official records with BSA. Then blue cards lose most of their importance and aren't necessary to HAVE in hand for any other reason in the adva
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