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  1. For Parent pins, our pack and troop gives out something like this http://www.scoutstuff.org/rib-neck-proud-parent-multi.html#.VgBUmFhRFwE we have moms and dads who wear them to court of honors, including those in uniform (gasp) I have a lanyard with my name on it in a leather name tag thing, and have parent pins for each of my scouts on it, from bobcat up to Eagle on one side, and bobcat up to Life on the other side. I wear it with my uniform and nobody has said boo about it except to compliment it. Including the local unform police. I usually wear it to court of honors or special events
  2. Honestly it doesn't matter if SM has the blue cards. Cause the process is the unit gets the signed blue cards, unit copy. then enters it into troop records and more importantly, they enter it into internet advancement to update your son's records on Scoutnet--the BSA database for advancement. Once it's in there, the blue card is no longer needed, as when he goes for his Eagle, all that needs to show is that the internet advancement records exist for the scout having earned all the required merit badges. Sure some councils want to see the blue cards, and some Eagle Board of Reviews check
  3. Most of our troop does a basic sit down in a rented church hall court of honor, with something like the eagle mountain script or the light a candle for each point of the scout law, sometimes with a scout of each rank doing the meaning of the scout ranks court of honor scripts. Followed by a full sit down catered dinner with dessert. Sort of like a wedding reception. A really huge deal and very costly. The most memorable was my oldest son's Eagle CofH. My son broke with that tradition above completely. He is a Vigil member of the OA and most of his scouting has been strongly O
  4. In our troop we make sure when unit leader signs off on the blue card for the start of working on the mb and then again at the END when mb is completed. Then we emsure that the scout keeps his portion of the card, the sm/adv chair keeps the unit copy of the card, and hope that the mb counselor kept their portion of the card. Then there are three places that exists proof that the scout finished the mb, and no scout ever has to do the work twice. Any one of those cards can be used to re-create the approval if the portion is lost. Scout should ask sm to sign a new blue card, and scout
  5. You could just break the direct link in the OP, but leave the product name, so if someone is so inclined they could search his product out. That seems like a way to leave the discussion but to take a bite out of the potential for advertising.
  6. we go camping too many places that don't allow you to tie/attach anything to a tree to use hammocks.
  7. When that happens you close your computer and come back 1-3 days later and it's magically fixed. It happens whenever bsa goes playing with the database. and it always resolves itself.
  8. IMHO new scout patrols are the new guys who stay together as a patrol until they get their feet wet, make some friends, see how the troop works, get some more targeted help from a troop guide that is assigned to the patrol by the spl (After volunteering to work with the new guys of course). And once they feel comfortable, they should be allowed to join any patrol they want to. Ours stay together as a NSP from crossover sometime around March-May, until after summer camp/school starts back. By then they've camped a couple times as a NSP and they aren't lost newbies anymore (hopefully) and
  9. yeah understood and agree sort of. We have a troop guide and an instructor that should be watching over those new scout patrol, but sometimes they still get lost or left behind and end up with either the blind teaching the blind or the adults step in thinking it's the only way the new guys will learn anything. Right now we are dealing with a scoutmaster who is stepping over his own son who is spl to teach scouts directly when it just isn't necessary, well except when his son the spl would prefer to ride his skateboard than to even pretend to be spl. These next 6 months of this SPL and SM fa
  10. So did you log into my.scouting.org and look at the membership roster for each unit? Are they a venture crew a separate unit or does the troop maybe only have a venture patrol? Cause I've run into units who don't know what they have cause nobody has looked at the paperwork. I mean if you don't have an actual separate committee for the venture crew is it really registered as a crew?
  11. Getting them into the RIGHT job is way more important than getting them up to speed into a job you need done. Unfortunately it may mean you end up with a lot of people that would make a great committee person, or a unit scouter reserve (on reserve to be helpful in some situations maybe but not active committee) and you end up with only one or two who have skillz, or the ability and interest to get themselves up to speed fast enough. You want them to want to get themselves trained if they are sm or asm, you don't want to have to hold their hand. I think training the parents on the scout s
  12. Gosh this makes me sad for some reason even though we've never much interacted over the years. But I understand. I'm about ready to give up, but my giving up will be in real life at the troop level due to those things you share. they don't see what they are doing and I haven't made a dent. We could use a strong leader with his head on straight like you are, and this forum could use your perspective as well. Take care.
  13. Identify if that person submitted an application filled out completely with attached ypt certificate and the disclosure agreement signed., and if so, where is that application? because as committee chair you are supposed to see each adult application and approve them for leadership. If they already filled one out and it's been turned into council office, then ask for a copy of it. Once you have the application in hand, go talk to the COR about the situation. If the COR is ok with the choice and approves the application and you don't have a BETTER choice, then sign the application yourself an
  14. For a while the thing that worked was to have 1 completely planned meeting for me to run, 1 completely planned meeting for someone else to run, and an outline of at least a month of other meetings, with a main idea for several months after that. So a beginning structure. The 1 completely planned meeting for me to run I would drag along a son/boy scout/older webelo, and my husband if possible. I would show them the parts of a well put together meeting, gathering, take attendance/dues if you collect them, very simple flag ceremony, announcements of what's coming up, a main activity and the
  15. This is basically what our troop has done for any of the minor changes that have come along in the last few years. You work on the requirements in your book. Then you get to working on Eagle Rank and have to true up your requirements for that rank to be sure you aren't missing a part when you are doing all the checks and balances for the rank, since someone outside of the troop looks things over. It screws up boys who transfer to other troops in the middle of a rank, and find the other troop follows the BSA regulations on the matter. Usually they can finish the current rank under old requi
  16. The new Scout badge requirements don't require a BOR. Also historically in our troop crossovers who join in December don't really do ANYTHING until January. So keep that in mind that you may have scouts who crossover, join the troop, come to one meeting, may or may not get scout badge done, then get busy with final weeks of schools, family Christmas stuff, and next thing you know it's January. Then you have half the crossover den of webelos who did the super speedy scout badge requirements, and the other half the den that has to go thru the bigger deal, and you have best friends at
  17. if they do scout with the old requirements and then do the rest of trail to first class under the new requirements, then there will be things they moved from tenderfoot into the scout badge that they will never have to do. They probably will do them informally, but it doesn't make sense to skip them completely in some aim to make scout badge easier. I would just start any end of 2015 or early 2016 new scouts clean with new requirements, start to work on scout badge if they cross over in December, but finish them in January when you get the new book. Some troops were basically handing web
  18. christineka The worst thing that will happen is that they will know that you are a pushy parent, and well sometimes pushy parents are needed to get a troop to do better by all the boys. the good thing is that you did some research and talked to some 'experts' before pushing things, to be sure you understood how things should be first. They can't say that you are asking them to do something that isn't scouting--camping is an integral part, and when it's virtually non-existent in a troop, that's a problem. I bet you'd take them camping if you could, but with the LDS restrictions on women they
  19. BSA needs to make a pamphlet like this sort of http://www.scoutstuff.org/bsa/literature-media/handbooks/handbook-bs-mini.html#.Vd9DD1hRE5s but with a place for the requirements to be signed off. and make them in old requirements to go in the new books, and in new requirements to go in the old books. Hopefully for a bit less $. Be great if it were the same size as existing book and would slide into place within the back of the book somehow with a clip or something Oh I know, giant sticky notes with two bars of sticky stuff at the top and the bottom, with the requirements printe
  20. My troop and SM seem to have their head in the sand hoping it all goes away. lol Or they don't know even though I've mentioned it a couple times. I think one committee person actually perked up and paid attention when I said all the rank requirements are changing come 2016. The Scouts just made their calendar for next year+ and scoutmaster made no mention of any additional requirements, so they'll have to review to add in some of the service more into campouts and events. I'm going to suggest that as part of the boards of review for all scouts in 2016 that when they are done with the
  21. I do like the idea that every year you have to do x hours or y amount of additional training, and provide a list to choose from. Make it simple so of course bsa probably wouldn't be able to figure it out would they? Right now we struggle to get everyone to take ypt, safe swim, safety afloat, climb on safety etc done online every 2 years. But we also want leaders to have things like CPR, First Aid, wilderness first aid, paddlecraft safety, and more.
  22. ^those are the things our roundtable used to do whenever they didn't have a planned program of 'this is what you are supposed to cover this month" shoved at the rt commissioners. The old/trained/experienced leaders were regularly going and they'd have open time to talk and would make a list and cover everything thru the year that everyone needed about those kinds of special topics. then they moved the roundtable location far away from most of the established units. The idea at the district level is they thought they'd get the newer less established units to go to roundtable if the location
  23. I spent way too much time trying to figure out how to copy the drop down menu list over here so you could view it. It's not easy without editing the html and I'm not up to that tonight. it's broken down by cub scouting, boy scouting, varsity/venturing, exploring/learning for life, and other. there are only 18 courses listed under boy scouting, some others could apply that are in the other list maybe. interesting that there is den chief training and NYLT listed to add for boy scouting, but I've not been able to add any training for youth. so for boy scouting it lists by name and by
  24. Well most scouters who have old training aren't gonna still be around in 3-4 MORE years. and maybe the BSA will get it all figured out by then. Also in the system you don't add codes, you can only choose from a drop down list of class titles with codes. And only a few old codes are listed, like S101 Boy Scout Leader Basic Training Pre 2001. Most old course codes have been dropped from the system as far as I can tell.
  25. Yeah Our troop expects a parent to stay with webelos if they are visiting individually, just like a brand new person off the street we wouldn't want them to be just dropped off. If the whole den comes we expect a den leader and would prefer two, but troop adults would act as second adults for two deep leadership if anything were to come up. It's just nice when you have a new young cub scout there visiting the boys scouts on his own to have a parent around at least at first until everyone gets to know everyone. How closely he will need to be monitored will of course depend on the maturity
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