T2Eagle

The other thread was mistitled. Instead of "Scouting Would Be So Much Better Without The Parents" it should read "Scouting Would Be So Much Better Without The Adults" I doubt many of his fellow scouts have any trouble seeing their troopmate as "Eagle Material."

We do planning during a December cabin weekend. We plan through the following February. Several of the more "experienced" of my fellow scouters almost needed a defibrillator the first time I told the scouts they were starting with a clean slate and just because we had "always" done something didn't mean we had to do it again or in the same way. That said, there are several campouts that always make it onto the calendar: we put on a joint weekend with our affiliated Cub Pack every year, we almost always have a Tenderfoot weekend in late April early May to get our newest scouts into the gr

That's too bad for the boys in Bismark. Peregrinator posted another link in the Gates thread showing that the Bishop of Fargo is OK allowing the continuing of his Parishes' relationships. http://www.inforum.com/news/3809853-fargo-diocese-thanks-boy-scouts-stating-faith-based-organizations-can-pick-leaders Local option.

That's really unusual to require. Neither mine nor any other RC unit I've known would require it, nor do any of the schools I've been involved with.

I've told every kid I talked to about it that I was homesick too -- everyone is to some extent or another, but that needn't stop you from having fun while you're here.

Was your SM Frank Zappa?

Have you seen this thread? scouting-would-be-so-much-better-without-the-parents

You know that once a year when the news shows y'all driving y'all's pickups into each other for no apparent reason, snow (and it's close cousin ice) is the actual reason.

My scouts play many variations of flashlight tag, german spotlight, etc. Dark snowy woods are a blast!!

-10F, 10 inches of snow between lunch and dinner (two different trips). We always kind of hope for one or the other. I'd quibble with one or two small things in the posts but mostly good advice so far. The key is proper equipment and training, training, training before you go. One thing I have learned that I don't think has been mentioned is doing a pack check --- you need to see everyone's sleeping gear and clothing before you go, scouts and parents will ignore things like properly rated bags, sufficient boots, and no cotton clothing. The difference between a winter camp and oth

Sadly, I find that our troops don't reflect the ethnic make up of our towns. From Jamboree to summer camp to council and district events, to anyplace you want to name it appears to me that BSA is not reflective of the ethnic diversity that makes up America. BSA in fact disproportionately serves white youth. We all know that BSA does not include a proportionate number of black inner city youth, but no one serves those youth proportionately; that BSA cannot do better than the rest of our society there is unfortunate but not unexpected. My bigger concern is that BSA does not look even a

Good for your son, ridiculous on the part of the adult.

Why not Camping or Cooking? One idea might be to talk about a recent campout from one of the age groups, especially Cubs, then give all the details necessary for another Pack to tackle it. If no Packs have camped recently, which is probably true in my area, find a good place for them to camp and lay out a turn-key program for how they could pull the campout off. For Boy Scouts how about a round up of where Troops went last month. Some of the best discussions I've had with my scouts come from when one of them will see the cover of Boys' Life and say "why can't we do that?" The answer

That's fascinating, do their hold the same dismal view of their IT as many of us on the outside hold?

Since no one else mentioned it, I am posting the link for the National Catholic Committee on Scouting Response. http://www.nccs-bsa.org/pdf/letters/NCCS%20Statement-150727.pdf We Catholics seem to be OK with it. “The resolution also affirms the chartered organization’s right to select its unit leaders based on its religious principles, rejects any interference with that right, and provides that local Scout councils will not interfere with chartered organizations’ rights in this regard. It is not entirely clear how these rights will be squared with previous policy changes the Boy

The memo is a bit long on assertions and short on legal analysis to back them up. Both the Catholic Church and the Mormon Church appear to be OK with the BSA legal position; if they're not worried then no one else should be.

Scouter99, For your Private Group do you have to monitor or, heaven forfend, "moderate" the posts your parents make? The last thing I want is either political messages or cat videos showing up in the troop feed.

The new name seems pretty lame. Couldn't they come up with something that had something to do with where they are?

Lepzid, Did the unit receive any information or communication. The language you use indicates a letter addressed to the applicant not the unit. Packsaddle, BSA uses a third part carrier or carriers. If someone in your unit gets hurt, contact your council office and they will send you the first of several mounds of paperwork to fill out. A very simplified explanation is that their insurance is usually secondary so they will cover what your own health care does not.

There should be a name on the bottom of the letter, either contact that person and ask for clarification or figure where that person reports on the food chain and ask them. The language you quoted is pretty harsh. I've never had an app turned down in my unit, but no one else here has ever mentioned language that strong when discussing other denials.

I do appreciate this forum and would ;ike to add my thanks to the moderators, I believe they do an excellent job.

I've found "bail and shop for a better venue" to be pretty solid advice an awful lot of the time, frankly especially when it comes to clients and bosses. When dealing with human beings the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior; you can and usually should try to work things out, but understand that often that's not really going to work very well, that's not to imply that either side is a bad person, but most people are pretty stuck in their ways. There are other companies to work for, other clients to get, other MBCs that will better help you achieve your goals.

The 12th point of the Scout Law: A scout is Reverent ... a scout respects the BELIEFS of others.

I have a different take on this than the other posters. The first question I thought of was who agreed to this project. It sounds like this was the adults' idea not the scouts, and that may be a part of the struggle for volunteers (I may come back to the Eagle project later). I often hear from adults in my troop either a) we need to do more service projects or b) here's a great opportunity for service you should get the scouts involved. What I have to do as politely as possible is explain that just because you don't see them do it doesn't mean they're not doing service work --- almost c

I joined decades before there was even discussion of whether there was such a policy. I don't know what I myself would have thought back then, but my own views, and the views of many other scouters, have changed as I've learned about, became aware of, and became friends, colleagues, and family members with, people who happened to be gay. Scouting IS something I hold dear, and the policy has been hard for me to abide, but I believed that the balance of the program enabled me to serve my scouts despite what I saw as a pretty big flaw in it. So I have hiked many miles in those boots that