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    Advice for New Cubmaster

    We never subject the scouts, Cubs or older, to FOS presentations. Yes, have them go do something fun while the parents listen to FOS.
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    Scouter needs advise

    YPT, and their response nowadays is scorched earth. Anyone with a touch of involvement: scouts, scouters, and parents, goes, no shades of gray.
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    Blue Cards

    I don't sign that many as a counselor that if a scout came up to me even a year or so later that I wouldn't be able to remember that we completed the badge, in which case i would just sign a new card, and really even if I couldn't remember specifically I would have to believe strongly that we HADN'T completed the badge for me to not sign a new card..
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    Blue Cards

    We hold them until the scout has aged out, and then we keep them until someone decides it's time to purge the files every few years. Holding on to them is pretty redundant since the record is held electronically in BSA's Scoutnet and in the Troop's Troopmaster file.
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    Insurance for Another Council Required

    Interesting, we regularly use neighboring council camps. In the last two years we have stayed at camps in five different councils, not a single one has asked for anything like this. I started to think that maybe familiarity made the request unnecessary because three of those five directly border our council, but the other two are far enough away that we might be the only troop from our council to stay there. Our council also gets a lot of troops from out of council at our camps (see story about Michigan closing camps), and at least at the Campmaster office we're not looking for any insurance info from visitors. In all these instances I'm talking about weekend trips, maybe things are different for summer camp.
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    Insurance for Another Council Required

    I don't quite follow. What kind of insurance are we talking about and when you say require, require for what? Is your council, let's call it A, requiring that an out of council troop provide proof of insurance from council B before that troop can camp in council A camp? I've never had anyone, local or out of council, ask for proof that we were insured.
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    Wreath company recommendations

    We have great success with our wreath sale. We use a local farmer (Michigan). I would recommend talking to local Christmas tree farms.
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    Jack Links Fundraiser Partnership with BSA

    It's not that I doubt you, but is that really true? Popcorn sales around here are mostly Cub Scouts and it is thankfully still true that most Cubs don't have their own smart phone. How in the world do they intend to enforce that? My own council has a form/contract they want everyone to sign saying they're on the hook for popcorn that is ordered by a donor/customer but then refused when it's delivered. I pointed this out to someone who said well we don't really intend to enforce it that way, to which I replied that they then really shouldn't write it that way. Complaint fell on deaf ears. My suggestion to anybody who asks --- sell the popcorn, don't sign the form.
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    2019 World Jamboree

    That BSA has the policy doesn't mean the policy self justifies. As a guess, the reason for the total ban on alcohol at BSA events comes from the influence that some religions had historically on the development of BSA. The ban probably came about more from a strong belief among those religions, like Methodists, Baptists, and Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, that alcohol was per se evil and shouldn't be consumed at all, with scouting simply being a subset of that "all", rather than any reasoning specific to scouting that alcohol and scouts shouldn't mix. My own religion, Catholicism, doesn't ascribe per se evil to alcohol and outside of the BSA prohibition there isn't any reason that controlled, moderate consumption would be strictly prohibited at a Catholic scouting event. It might come as a real shock to our cousins across the pond to know that the prohibition against alcohol at scouting events is usually read to apply to adult only events where no scouts are present. For instance, there is a prohibition against alcohol at Woodbadge.
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    Embarrassing: The Lawyers in GSUSA v. BSA

    The longer than dkurtenbach , but still short answer here is that no, stalling is not an acceptable tactic, making it more difficult for the other side to make their case by being untimely or uncooperative is in fact strictly prohibited under various court rules and the general rules of ethical behavior that govern the profession. Unlike what may be portrayed on TV or in the media, there aren't supposed to be surprises in legal cases. The point of the process of Discovery is that both sides are supposed to have the same full set of all the information relevant to a case. Each side has an affirmative obligation, that is its obligation exists no matter what the behavior of the other side, to fully disclose to the other party, in a timely manner, all the information that it possesses that MIGHT be relevant to the case. There are specific and tight deadlines on these disclosures, you're not supposed to mess with them in any way. I clerked for a Federal Magistrate, the language used here by the judge indicates some serious wrongdoing on the part of the attorneys. If you want to use a sports metaphor, this isn't throwing an elbow, this is refusing to give the ball to the other team so they can properly in bound it. There is no day light that I've ever seen between the rules of the court, the Rules of Professional Responsibility, and the Scout Oath and Law.
  11. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/21/world/europe/netherlands-dropping-children.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage Blindfold your scouts, drive them out to the middle of nowhere, give them a GPS (for the first half of the trek only) and wish them luck getting back to camp. Don't try this at home.
  12. Every time I read about this I want to go kiss some of my council board members. We were under tremendous pressure to be a part of this, and despite a lot of arm twisting we stayed out of it --- kept our camps and kept our endowment. There was no question that a number of camps had to be sold off. Several councils in the state were teetering on bankruptcy, and there simply wasn't enough revenue coming in to sustain every camp. But it sounds like they haven't gotten the revenue/expense balance right yet, and I am always unhappy with the lack of transparency from every council. If there's a plan in place to balance the books it should be available to anyone to see, keeping it secret and trying to put a positive spin on negative news just makes the truth harder when it's confronted.
  13. I spent many a night in a tent like that. Pole in the middle of the tent was the devil's design. We were told not to get near it on pain of death. External pole systems were one of the great design innovations in the evolution of consumer tents. I was intrigued, so I went looking for an image. Here are pictures of a tent the spitting image of my family's. As John-in-KC mentioned, there's a sort of side room. https://s430.photobucket.com/user/seavandal/story
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    Den Leader Guides 2015 edition vs 2018

    This is a purely hypothetical question for me because so far our Pack has no female dens and no one has stepped up in our CO to start a female Scouts BSA troop, but does anyone know if there are rules regarding Den Chiefs having to be the same gender as the den?
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    Bullying incident - need advice

    A website from Health and Human Services (HHS) has some really good information and tips for these types of situations. https://www.stopbullying.gov/ I think their definition is more complete than the BSA's. Importantly they add in the components that it is "unwanted and aggressive" "real or perceived power imbalance" and "repeated or has the potential to be repeated" Those three change things from just boys will be boys, and can help understand the difference between unacceptable bad behavior and true bullying. "Bullying is unwanted, aggressive behavior among school aged children that involves a real or perceived power imbalance. The behavior is repeated, or has the potential to be repeated, over time. Both kids who are bullied and who bully others may have serious, lasting problems. In order to be considered bullying, the behavior must be aggressive and include: An Imbalance of Power: Kids who bully use their power—such as physical strength, access to embarrassing information, or popularity—to control or harm others. Power imbalances can change over time and in different situations, even if they involve the same people. Repetition: Bullying behaviors happen more than once or have the potential to happen more than once. Bullying includes actions such as making threats, spreading rumors, attacking someone physically or verbally, and excluding someone from a group on purpose."
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    Bullying incident - need advice

    There is not, to my knowledge, a set of guidelines about what to do, in the sense that there's no program that says "if bullying is alleged conduct investigation this way..." and then "if bullying is found to have occurred take action X..." In line with @Gmath I would urge you to speak with your son about what he thinks would be a good outcome, and make sure you convey that to the SM right away.
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    Medical Forms

    My answer would be that I don't know of any unit that does that, and, assuming this is a run of the mill service project not some overnight event, I have never heard of or seen any other organization require medical forms for this type of participation. If there's someone in your troop who is particularly fanatic it about it have them be the person who shows up at the event and hands them out and collects them.
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    Invisible scouts

    Humans are astoundingly fallible and incompetent at almost everything we do. Assume good will on everybody's part and that not mentioning your son was an oversight. Send a polite note to the COR reminding him mashmaster jr. is also going.
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    Rider etiquette

    We had a parent who played nothing but Grateful Dead music on a long trip. When we all met up at a rest stop the scouts in is car were desperately trying to change cars.
  20. In answer to the broad question, I would say that a troop level BOR should be suspended if there is doubt about the scout having fully completed the requirements, the BOR isn't the proper forum for other concerns like very recent misbehavior, the SM, CC and troop committee as a whole are the proper ways to hash those out. As to properly reciting the Oath and Law, those are acts that scouts should be able to perform well early on in their scouting career. A scout in their first year or so of scouting may need to put in a little more effort, or receive a little extra time and help to do that. But it's important to remember that memorization and recitation are not the same as knowledge, and an inability to memorize and/or recite is not indicative of a knowledge deficiency. There's a lot of research available about how the brain remembers things, and one of the more fascinating facets to me is how the brain rewards itself for habitual behavior, even unhelpful behavior. Once you have memorized, or maybe more accurately imprinted on your brain, something inaccurately, correcting that is very very difficult. It's the reason that once you've made a wrong turn on the way towards a place to which you regularly travel, the chances are you will make that same wrong turn even if you start off reminding yourself not to..
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    World Jamboree Attire

    No maybe on the rain jacket, thunderstorms are common this time of year.
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    Man Bites Dog... Den leader sues Cub Scouts

    "A surgeon would later reattach the bone holding his nose to his skull, using four plates and some 20 screws that remain in place" that ain't no bloody nose; he also missed two months plus of work. That's a pretty big financial hit, possibly devastating to he and his family, especially if he has anything but first class medical coverage. As DavidCO said this might have been driven by an insurance company, or it might have been driven by desperation. I'll withhold judgment without a whole lot more information.
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    Tent set up question

    I'm always a fan of scouts thinking ahead and thinking outside the box. I like it.
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    Quick: Are Crocs closed toe enough for camp?

    For our camp and our troop those would be fine. My crocs, which I wear around the campsite but not really for trucking all over summer camp, are they type which have a heel strap and so would, I think, satisfy Treflienne's concerns.
  25. Camps can have their own sets of rules, some internal, some dictated by the state because they're camps. In addition to whatever forms your camp requires for summer camp your troop should require the BSA Annual Health and Medical Record (AHMR) for everybody in the troop and anybody going on an outing with you. "For any and all Scouting activities, all participants must complete Part A and Part B." https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/HealthSafety/pdf/680-001_AB.pdf The two authorizations are not necessarily in conflict with each other. The camp has an authorization to administer OTC and the troop has authorization to administer OTC. Given what the camp form says you could check with them for their opinion of whether you refer everything to them while at camp. Our camp has us send everything above band aid level to them.
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