scoutldr

First, let me say I agree with your sentiments. But that would be adding to the requirements, which is not permitted. National has defined "be active in your troop" as "registered", according to others on this forum. Sometimes I think the LDS folks have it right, segregating by age groups. When I turned 14, I joined an Explorer Post, and became more active in OA. I Eagled at 16 as an Explorer. If I hadn't done that, I probably would have dropped out because the troop didn't offer much beyond First Class.

The requirement is to hold a POR for 6 months since the Life BOR. It doesn't have to be the same POR for 6 months, nor does it have to be 6 continuous months. The quality of performance is up to the SM to judge. The rumor is just that...not actionable. I once saw a scout admit to "living in sin" with is GF and the baby that he fathered (in her parents' house). The EBOR (troop committee) denied Eagle. He appealed to District and was successful. If you dig in your heels, be prepared to be overturned on appeal...Councils don't like bad PR. I would have a chat with the District Advancement Chair to guage how the winds are blowing.

"to be interested"??? What does that mean?

If you mean the annual BSA registration, none of that stays with the local Council. It all goes to Irving, TX to pay THEIR salaries. I just checked the Centennial QU form and there are two OPTIONAL goals: visits from your Unit Commissioner, and participation in the annual product sale (not all councils do popcorn). Repeat, OPTIONAL. That being said, there are few revenue streams for the Council, the major ones being FOS and Popcorn. Council/district activities should be self-supporting, so maybe whoever runs them needs to scale back expenses. Does everyone really need or want a matching neckerchief? Like the others, our camporees run about $10-12. That includes all expenses, like portapotty rental, crackerbarrel supplies, a patch, insurance, etc. Back in the day, we could get matching patch/necker/coffee mug, but those cost extra for those who wanted them. Extra patches are 3 bucks. Being on the District committee, we once were lectured by the DE about criticising "them" at Council. We have met the enemy and they is us.

I was District Training Chair in 2003-2005 time frame. The syllabi were woefully outdated and inadequate then. Unless they have recently been updated, I don't see the point in making people be "re-trained" (Hey...do we get a new "RETRAINED" strip"...where's Troy when we need him???) At the very least, they should offer the re-training free of charge. I'll be durned if I'm gonna pay for it twice.

Maybe that's because there ain't any....maybe we're all just making it up as we go along! How do I know there IS a BSA "higher power"? I ain't never seen it!

Ya want official policy, you say??? Yah can't get thaya from heah!

Then what's the point of having this forum? Everything here is just "opinion", unless supported by a reference, which seldom happens. Even with a reference, the interpretations are all over the map. That's all this is...a forum for opinions and observations. If you want a firm policy decision or interpretation, the user is well advised to get it from the SE in his/her Council. A lot of what is asked here could be gleaned by a few minutes of research with Google. Doesn't everyone have Google? Why do they need us? When I do give an opinion or engage in debate, I try to give references and/or state my qualifications. There are those here, however, when armed with absolutely NO qualiifications in the subject at hand (such as medicine or law), will argue their point just as fervently, even when proven wrong. Caveat emptor. When you ask for free advice, you get what you pay for.

I know for a fact there is an afterlife. I saw it on "Ghost Hunters".

www.mvcbsa.com/training/Forms/Training%20Codes.pdf Try 9128

"Just say NO"

Actually, the word is "pooh-pooh". "Poo-poo" is something else, but you'll find a lot of that here too, especially the bovine variety.

I don't think anyone is advocating earning every MB...just recognizing those who have, whatever their motivation. Personally, I think the palms are enough, but if Troy wants to pursue his dream, more power to him. From what we're hearing about the new uniform, it will be a moot point anyway. I think this horse is dead.

In our council, cub camping areas are approved by the Council camping committee. See if yours has a list of approved areas. I'm not sure if there's a rule or not...

Carbo diem!

"External medications are far less likely to cause additional harm. Side effects from external meds usually manifest as skin irritations and in nearly every situation can be mitigated or reversed simply by removing the sustance. The same is not true of internal medications." Bob, you need to quit spouting things about which you obviously know little. I am not a physician or nurse, but I do have formal graduate level training in Toxicology and physiology...my profession deals with industrial poisons and other health hazards. Your statement above is just plain wrong. We call these "routes of entry" and one of the most common ways for a poison (or medication) to reach a target organ is via transcutaneous absorption. As the father of my profession, Paracelsus said, "All things are poisons...only the dose determines which are toxic."

Well, since you asked. I was raised Lutheran and am a scientist. I guess that makes me a Christian scientist, no? I believe in God, who created the heavens and earth...and He created evolution, and the Big Bang, and black holes.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program...the difficulty you were experiencing was not in your receiver.

You are going to work many long hours for scant reward, including most evenings and weekends. If you have a family, are they OK with that?

And sometimes even the wacky ones get approved, vis a vis the NESA knot and the current uniform design.

The point of my post was not to shoot GaHillBilly (although he needed shootin', which I understand is a valid defense in GA). :-) The point is, kids with major health issues are being mainstreamed, not only in the schools, but also in Scouts. I always tell the HIV story when I teach BSA Lifeguard. There are HIV positive folks among us, we don't know who they are and they ain't tellin'. Universal precautions are required, no matter who it is. To use my wife's line, "if it's wet and it's not yours, DON'T TOUCH IT!!!" Likewise, for the novice Scouters who may be reading this Board, CYA is not a bad policy. For myself, I have had more than a little First Aid training and was an ARC instructor in both First Aid and WSI at one point. When faced with a crisis, I don't know what I would do, but like Gunny, I hope I wouldn't freeze with panic if I had resources available. Like my wife, I'll deal with the lawyers later, but I need to be able to look at myself in the mirror the rest of my life. And I would expect any of you to do the same for me if it came to it.

I thought that was the UC hymn. I would want the DE to understand that there is more to Scouting than "meeting your numbers." And that, as a volunteer, my goals are not necessarily the same, and I am just that...a VOLUNTEER...I do have a real job to pay the bills, and Scouting is what I do for fun in my SPARE time. When it starts to feel like a JOB with a BOSS (DE), I will find some other way to spend my SPARE TIME.

Perfect!

"But it doesn't really matter. Anyone with a high school degree could learn EVERYTHING they needed to do the job in a single week training course. I mean, how hard is it to learn to distinguish clear snot from yellow bloody snot, or to take a temperature electronically. Most job applicants come already possessing the essential care skill (using a phone), since the primary care such nurses provide is to call the parent(s)." Ahhh, GAHillBilly...if my wife saw this, she'd rip your throat out. Seriously, in this state (YMMV), and in her school, she has children with major health issues, since it is their "right" to be included in mainstream education. She has had a kindergartner with HIV (which she only discovered because she had an immunization exemption from a local HIV specialist, and was not allowed to tell anyone else, even the Principal and teacher), children with tracheostomies, feeding tubes, terminal cancer, diabetes, quadraplegics, etc. She also conducts primary health screenings for vision, hearing, scoliosis, and yes, headlice. About a week ago, she discovered an advanced bone tumor on a third grader's upper arm. The parents were mortified that they had not noticed the baseball sized lump, since the kid now bathes himself. For many of the lower income students, she is the ONLY primary care provider. She is also responsible for the adult staff, and has handled strokes, heart attacks, and diabetic reactions. Yes, she hands out a lot of ADHD meds, but nearly so much now that they have the long-acting ones. A few months ago, she did have a student with an anaphylactic reaction to some insect bite and she used another student's epi-pen. The kid was in full respiratory arrest. EMS took 20 minutes to get there, and by then the kid was bouncing off the walls from the adrenaline. She rode in the ambulance with the kid and the ER doc complimented her for saving his life. But her nursing license was on the line, should it have turned out differently. Her response was, "I could live without a license, but I could never have lived with myself if I had to watch one of my kids die and I didn't try something." The parents were eternally grateful and replaced the epi-pen. The kid had one at home, but they never bothered to bring one to school because they were just too busy. PS: My wife wants your phone number...(This message has been edited by scoutldr)

No, I say, "Bobby, are you supposed to be taking some meds?" If he says "yes", I show him where the briefcase is. If he says "No", I'm done. I remember buying Ludens Cherry cough drops for 10 cents at school. Nowadays, kids get suspended for having them on their person, and even worse if they give them to another student.