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  1. allangr1024

    Denied a court of honor.

    There is still something not being said here. Why do you think there is discrimination on the part of the committee members? Age? Gender? Political persuasion? Religious beliefs? Past behavior? Has there been ANY communication between this scout or his family and the leaders of the troop. This is not coming out of the blue. Tell us everything about the scout and the troop. There is an animosity here that is still unexplained.
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    Winter Gear Up

    I bought this battery: https://www.amazon.com/Freedom-CPAP-Battery-Standard-Kit/dp/B01H637L82/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1531240045&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=freedom%2Bbattery&smid=APZ6KY51K4CVC&th=1 So far it has worked well. I use a Hennessy Expedition Asym Zip hammock. It is ok. If I had to look at something else, I would look into the Warbonnet hammocks. They are pricey, so I would have to go for a used one. I have also made hammocks out of tablecloths from TableclothFactory.com. They have some crinkle taffeta tablecloths that make great DIY hammocks.
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    Winter Gear Up

    I have to use a CPAP too. I have a net suspended above my hammock with the CPAP and a battery with a 2 day charge. The hose reaches down from this net and into my hammock. I camped for years without it, due to lack of power, and sprang for the battery this March with some yearly bonus money. I had this setup at summer camp this year and slept very well. I never realized what a difference it makes. Sorry to hear about the gear failure. It happens to all of us. I went camping with a different troop a few years ago, and decided to use an extrawide Tablecloth hammock. I tied the ends into a gathered end and attached the suspension rope. I was in it for a minute when I heard a TWANGGGGG, and then landed on the ground. Fortunately I had my ground pad in the hammock for insulation, and it cushioned my fall. I was embarrassed when all the men came running to see what had happened. After that I started using whoope slings to attach the hammock to the suspension straps, and all is good. Where in OK do you live? I am originally from Louisiana, but have been here for 30 years. I had my sons in scouting, and probably had more fun doing it than they did. They are all grown and gone, and I am still making it to scout camp outs every month.
  4. allangr1024

    Winter Gear Up

    Buggie, I live in Tulsa, so I am very familiar with the weather conditions you mentioned. And, I LOVE Trappers Rendezvous. I have been there when it was 40 degrees, and when it was 4 degrees. With little in the way of a planned program, it is amazing how many people come. I camp in a camping hammock year round. This is on troop camp outs and private trips. I found 10 years ago that I could not sleep on the ground anymore, and alternatives like air mattress and cot seemed either too heavy or too prone to failure. I would seriously consider using a hammock when you go camping. When used properly, it is comfortable, easy to set up, environmentally friendly, light weight, and perhaps a bit provocative. I cannot tell you how may people came up to me at camporee and said "you sleep in that?" As far as brand names for gear, I see a lot of Ospree packs, MSR and Kelty tents and tarps, Merrell boots, and of course, Coleman is always in someone's truck. For me, you just have to see what you can get a deal on, and decide if you care about light weight, Ultra-light, or just good enough for car camping. Good luck, and have some fun out there.
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    Is this the new normal?

    I saw the dance thing happen at a camporee this past spring. It was planned and run by a team of Eagle scouts, with a theme of the Olympics. It was very well carried out, and at the ceremony on Saturday night, after the awards were passed out, we had an ice cream social. The team also brought DJ equipment and strobe lights and had a quarter of the dining hall set up as a disco. We had a lot of scouts get up after they finished ice cream, and try to boogie to the music. It was part of the program the older scouts came up with, and I think all the scouts liked it. I am not sure about the adults, who mainly congregated at the other side of the dining hall and talked.
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    Required Worksheets?

    I believe that the troop started using the worksheets in the past as a tool to help the scouts to prepare for the requirements that say "Discuss" or "Describe" or "Talk about". If you view these sheets as a tool then it makes sense. But of course, after the original visionary Scouter has retired from his role in the troop, behind him comes adult volunteers who were not privy to the reasoning behind the use of the worksheets as tools, and saw them as the fulfillment of requirements themselves. I think the attitude on the part of the adult Scouters is supposed to be "how can we help the scouts fulfill the requirements? What tools can we use?" But when it comes right down to it, the scout passes the requirement when he discusses or describes or he talks about the subject. If the requirement says to "Demonstrate", then he passes when he demonstrates. If he has to "Write a plan" then he has some sort of writing to do. A reading of the publication "Guide to Advancement" is helpful here, as this has the BSA's take on all things Advancement. I have not checked lately, but the Guide has said in the past that although the worksheets are helpful, they are not required and are totally voluntary. And there are alternate requirements in the Guide that scouts like your son may find better suited to their situations. Explore those. Use of worksheets, especially for work on Merit Badges, can be incredibly useful. But I have seen them used very badly. The people who first put them together were hoping to do a service to scouts and Scouters, but anything taken out of its context can be misused to do a disservice to the scouts.
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    Fort Worth Catholic Bishop endorses Troops of St. George

    This is not good. Scouting in the US is fragmenting into pieces. Along religious lines we will have evangelical scouting (Trail Life), catholic scouting (troops of St George), LDS scouting (whatever they are going to call it), Scouting BSA (whatever), and who knows how many other separate scouting organizations. What would it take to bring all of these divergent pieces of the old BSA back together again?
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    National, Religion, Membership, Oath and Law

    LegacyLost, I am a Christian believer, but I am not prepared to say that the BSA going coed is akin to violating the law of God. Scouting has always been a tool to help boys grow into men. As such, its purpose is noble and good, and I can use it to help my sons grow into men as well. But the allowing of girls into the BSA does not concern me because it violates scripture. Rather it is unwise, as it brings both girls and boys together at a time when their sense of their distinctiveness is being learned by both sides. Boys need to be around men to learn how to be a man. And I assume that girls need to be around mature women for the same reason. Hormones being what they are, it seems to me that giving boys an environment to be boys is a wise thing, and the same with girls. I fear that as the 12 year old girls in a coed setting mature a bit faster than the boys, the girls will be preferred, and will be set up as an informal standard in behavior and manners. The boys then are told to act like the girls, and then we have what we have in schools. The masculine traits will be considered "Toxic Masculinity" and boys will be treated as second rate. That will be too bad.
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    National, Religion, Membership, Oath and Law

    If memory serves, when BP found out that girls wanted to do scouting, he set up a separate organization, the Girl Guides, and had his wife run it separately from the Boy Scouts. This all girls organization is still in business, and by some accounts, is prospering more than the current Scout Association in Britain. How could BP to be so unfriendly, to forsake being a brother to every other scout. He must have been a heartless, bigoted individual who hated females and treated them like crap. I wonder what would happen if the BSA followed BP's example, and set up something like the Girl Guides in an organizational division separate from the boys organization. Both would be scouts, but they could have kept the male and female distinctions, and distinctiveness, intact.
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    From National: Official Name

    Sorry, AVTech. I have to correct you. The copy of the Scoutmasters Handbook I got when I became a Scoutmaster in 2007 (copyright 1999) had this quote in the section called "The Aims of Scouting" on page 7, "A goal of the Boy Scouts of America is to help boys develop into honorable men. Scouting's values can be incorporated into a boy's home, school, and religious community, adding to all three and, in some cases, filling in where family, school, or religious support is lacking." They started replacing the gender term "boy" with the work "youth" when they started contemplating the change. In 2012 I started hearing rumors that there would be a merger between the BSA and the GSUSA, with some type of name change like "Scouts USA". Of course everyone poo poo'd the idea, saying "it will never happen." I guess the merger did not survive the meeting of the minds between the two organizations. But here we are now.
  11. It looks like this page has been taken down. Does anyone have a copy of what it said?
  12. allangr1024

    Hammock Camping Class

    I have thought of doing this in my troop as well. We have some older boys who use hammocks in spring weather, but no one seriously camps with hammocks. I use one at every camping trip. I have thought of doing a Saturday morning seminar for whoever wants to come, and maybe use the UNofficial Hammock Camping merit badge requirements (Look on HammockForums.com) I would definitely cover the following topics: 1. Use of tree straps to protect the trees. 2. Different types of suspension, along with a demonstration of at least 3. 3. How to stay warm in a hammock (pads or underquilts). 4. Use of a bug net. 5. Coverage of a tarp. 6. Laying in a hammock at an angle. I would probably put together a good, inexpensive starter hammock, suspension and tarp combo for demonstration, and hand out the list of the equipment and the amazon.com page addresses where they can be purchased. If you can put it together for under 50 dollars then you would have something scouts and families could try out. Good luck with the class
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    Scoutmaster Clark Green

    He said that he was traveling a lot this summer. I think he said he was going on a trek to Canada, and I bet he is leading a tour or two to the Scouting facility in Switzerland, Kanderstag. I would have expected him back by now, but yea, not active online.
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    Boys "Eagle Out" of troop

    The leave at 15 and return at 17 to finish Eagle requirements happened to my son. I was an ASM, and committed to the program. But my son just did not want to go to meetings any more, and went on few outings. I asked him "What gives?" He said that when he looks around at the troop meetings, all he sees are the little kids (11 and 12 year olds) and that doing Merit Badges as a life scout is just not fun. As a 16 year old life scout, he had "been there, done that", and it did not interest him any more. I can see that. The advancement program is geared for a 13 year old. It is challenging enough for the younger scouts, but becomes drudgery for an older scout, especially with the more bookish Eagle required merit badges (Environmental Science, Citizenship in the Community and in the World) How in the world can you make these badges fun? He came back and did finish his Eagle required badges and project, and got his Eagle application in the day before his 18th birthday. It was a pattern well practiced in that troop. And it was the case over the tenure of several Scoutmasters for a number of years. Were our Scoutmasters poorly trained? Badly equipped, un-supervised? I think we did as well as most of the troops in the council.
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    Scoutmaster Transition

    When we got a new scoutmaster, I bought the two volume set of the 1940 Scoutmasters Handbook, written by Green Bar Bill. I told him that a lot of the program had changed, but the stuff in the first volume, especially the four chapters on the Patrol Method, were golden. I considered a good foundation in the philosophy of the Patrol Method to be invaluable to any SM. Otherwise, I don't think the current literature would give him the appreciation of this almost unique feature of the Scouting program. Our new SM got this, and has mentioned in planning meetings how old time troops from the past centered around the patrols. He instituted a policy of having the patrols do patrol camping trips one time per year, with the PL's having to do all of the planning and organizing. I think our SM got it. Look on EBAY and purchase at least the first volume of this handbook from the 1930's and 1940's. The SM handbooks from the 1950's were abbreviated versions of the former handbooks. Green Bar Bill, being Swedish, spoke and wrote at a teenagers level, and that helped simplify his explanations of the material. Highly recommended.
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