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Right, if the Denver Council did not want Hooters employees wearing company attire, they could have just told Hooters no thanks for their help and money. Simple as that.
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Yes as I understand, hooters in Britain are car horns. I have not found an answer to my earlier question. I suspect corporate/organization sponsor employees are being exempted by Council from the usual volunteer paperwork (individual application/membership), YP, background checks, and Health forms. The sponsoring corporation/organization (NOLS, US Army, Home Depot, NRA, AT&T, Hooters,...) decides what their employees/members wear. They want publicity with photos clearly showing their employees helping. My experience with Cub camp, the council camp staff is uniformed. Volunteers (Moms) and Cubs not so much..
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Sorry for creating a duplicate thread. In that thread, I asked if all volunteers at this Cub camp were YP trained and BSA members with required background checks and, of course, those Health forms. If so, the Hooters people were BSA approved. If not, Denver Council has some explaining to do. From camp photos, the attire is a non-issue. If there is a concern that Hooters should not give out company/organization hats/promotional material, then the same should apply to other outside groups volunteering at scout activities. I predict next year, more Dads will find the time to volunteer at scout camp. Disclaimers: - I have not been in a Hooters restaurant ...yet. Perhaps if I tell Mrs. Schiff that they support Scouting. - Back in the day, the first Playboy I saw was at my local scout camp.
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IMHO, this is just funny as in the unexpected. I see no problem with attire or help given. I am curious did ALL volunteers for this Cub Scout camp become BSA members and take YP training?
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... Michelle Kettleborough, mom to a 7-year-old cub scout who attended the camp, told KMGH said she was in disbelief when she picked up her son and noticed him wearing a Hooters hat. "I step back for a second, and I take a look and I'm like, 'Are they wearing Hooters visors? Wait a minute,'" Kettleborough said. "Quite honestly we're questioning whether we're going to keep him in the organization at all next year." ...another concerned parent, told KMGH she thought that the "philosophies" of the Boys Scouts and Hooters were "polar opposites." "We love the Scouts, [but] we think they made a very poor choice," Corn said. "And what I would like -- and what I think would go a long way, again -- is some accountability." Corn said the local Boy Scouts chapter dismissed her concerns when she wrote an email asking about Hooters' sponsorship of the camp. According to the email reply obtained by KMGH, a district executive with the Boy Scouts told Corn, "The restaurant assisted with the costs of putting on the camp, and through their community volunteering several of their waitresses donated their time to help staff the camp. Glad to hear your son had such a good time." A spokesperson for Boy Scouts of America in Denver told KMGH in a statement that a "group of trained volunteers mistakenly wore the wrong attire" to a local Cub Scout Day Camp. The spokesperson added that the issue "was addressed by our Council leadership" and that "[w]e extend our apologies for this mistake and look forward to continuing our mission of serving youth in the Denver area." http://abcnews.go.com/US/parents-outraged-learn-local-hooters-sponsored-cub-scout/story?id=40325654 Second attempt at posting...
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... Michelle Kettleborough, mom to a 7-year-old cub scout who attended the camp, told KMGH said she was in disbelief when she picked up her son and noticed him wearing a Hooters hat. "I step back for a second, and I take a look and I'm like, 'Are they wearing Hooters visors? Wait a minute,'" Kettleborough said. "Quite honestly we're questioning whether we're going to keep him in the organization at all next year." Marsha Corn, another concerned parent, told KMGH she thought that the "philosophies" of the Boys Scouts and Hooters were "polar opposites." "We love the Scouts, [but] we think they made a very poor choice," Corn said. "And what I would like -- and what I think would go a long way, again -- is some accountability." Corn said the local Boy Scouts chapter dismissed her concerns when she wrote an email asking about Hooters' sponsorship of the camp. According to the email reply obtained by KMGH, a district executive with the Boy Scouts told Corn, "The restaurant assisted with the costs of putting on the camp, and through their community volunteering several of their waitresses donated their time to help staff the camp. Glad to hear your son had such a good time." A spokesperson for Boy Scouts of America in Denver told KMGH in a statement that a "group of trained volunteers mistakenly wore the wrong attire" to a local Cub Scout Day Camp. The spokesperson added that the issue "was addressed by our Council leadership" and that "[w]e extend our apologies for this mistake and look forward to continuing our mission of serving youth in the Denver area." I suspect Council is keeping the money but sending a contingent of uniform police to sweep the Cub Scout Camp. http://abcnews.go.com/US/parents-outraged-learn-local-hooters-sponsored-cub-scout/story?id=40325654
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I have felt "future shock" the most in my outdoor activities. It will not be long when we will be required to carry and register a smartphone for a trek so that rangers become forest traffic controllers. Too much? When the weight and cost outweigh the benefit and with tech the weight and cost always grow. You need a memory upgrade, a solar recharger, new maps, new apps,... My $0.02
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Don Linke, Carl Voss, Tom Olmstead and Steven Hoegh were four of Bob Bebensee’s (pictured above) former Troop 60 Boy Scouts on hand to surprise Bob with the bench. Don Linke said they wanted to remember the effects scouting had on their lives. He said it was more than just knots and lighting campfires. NIcely done thank you. Great audio remarks from his scouts on his impact in link below. http://965ksom.com/former-boy-scouts-honor-scoutmaster-with-bench-in-the-atlantic-city-park/
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The Unrushed, Peaceful Morning Coffee at Mess Hall
RememberSchiff replied to RememberSchiff's topic in Summer Camp
Too noisy in the mess hall to hear any table stories. Can't agree that it is reminiscent of any of my old family meals where no one would speak while eating, only one person spoke at a time, no elbows were on table, and all exhibited table manners or were quickly corrected. It is more reminiscent of a school cafeteria meal assuming adults would sit a school cafeteria table with students. I think a quiet cup of coffee is not asking much for adults who are giving up a vacation week. -
Had a meeting last night to recruit parents for summer camp and heard these laments from parents. To politely paraphase: What is the problem with having a peaceful cup of coffee in the morning? Why not sit all adults together and let them hang around (or not) after scout dismissal to have a peaceful cup of joe. No singing, no jumping up and down, no announcements, no sign-ups, no classes. Relax and drink their coffee while scouts are off to program. Their second comment jogged my memory. I do recall occasions when troop adults were seated separately and each scout table had a camp counselor or two seated. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea.
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Rare to hear of a 4th generation Eagle scout and even more rare to read a family's perseverance to keep their son in scouting while relocating. Starting as a Cub Scout in Hohenfels, Germany, and continuing in the Lone Scout program while his family was stationed in Townsville, Australia, Cannata earned Cub Scout’s highest award, the Arrow of Light, before transitioning to Boy Scouts. He has earned 36 merit badges and is a member of the Boy Scouts honor society, the Order of the Arrow. Cannata is a fourth generation Eagle Scout, as his father, both grandfathers and great-grandfather also achieved. An older brother is also an Eagle. http://coastalcourier.com/section/6/article/81439/ Scout Salute to the Cannata family
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Northeast Region's Venturing program initiative.
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Don't use any of BSA trademarks such as "BSA" and the BSA "version" of the fleur dis le and there are no license fees to get passed to unit. For example Troop 154, Mytown, KS.
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Depending on size of order, the troop cost: $8-10 for cotton. silkscreen one color (avoid cotton I say) $10-14 for synthetic (yes, wicking), silkscreen one color (sometimes 2) Agree, this is a good project for scouts but too often adults step in and gum it up - two-tone, front and back lettering, side stripes, embroidery, BSA vendor... ugh
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Add Breastfeeding to G2SS?
RememberSchiff replied to RememberSchiff's topic in Open Discussion - Program
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Sir Baden-Powell Hid Maps in Insect Drawings
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Another archive Pine Tree Web gone?
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Use internet WayBackMachine to see. WayBackMachine archives some websites at random intervals. Their archives are often not complete and my understanding their archives are not available to search engines like Google. https://web.archive.org/web/*/pinetreeweb.com -
I have not been able to access http://pinetreeweb.com/ in some time. A WHOIS lookup reveals the domain registration expires 7/16/2016. What a loss of online scouting information that would be. Kudu if you are out there, maybe you can save these archives to your inquiry.net.
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The drawing's creator Robert Baden-Powell, in his 1915 book My Adventures as a Spy, wrote: “This sketch of a butterfly contains the outline of a fortress, and marks both the position and power of the guns. The marks on the wings between the lines mean nothing, but those on the lines show the nature and size of the guns, according to the keys below.†It was espionage by entomology. See explanation at source link below. http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-founder-of-the-boy-scouts-hid-maps-in-insect-drawings
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David Peterson is a District Director for the Utah National Parks Council in St. George. In his role, he trains leaders and oversees district operations for more than 6,000 youth and 3,200 adult leaders. He is also the Director of Beaver High Adventure Base, a camp he said is dedicated to helping kids overcome things that are hard. Whether it be completing an obstacle, rock climbing, rappelling or walking a tightrope, the camp teaches kids that they can do hard things, even things they thought were impossible, much like “American Ninja Warrior,†Peterson said. “I love being outdoors, I think I have been doing this kind of stuff all my life,†Peterson said. “I love to climb trees, I love to swing on ropes. It’s something I’ve done ever since I was little but I think it is something I will continue to do throughout the years, to stay in shape, to help others overcome obstacles, and it is something I use in my profession as well.†Given Peterson’s strong ties to Scouting, it’s not surprising that he incorporated several Scouting elements into his “American Ninja Warrior†audition video. He then received a call from the show’s casting crew telling him, he’d been selected to compete in Oklahoma City on May 13. If Peterson finishes the qualifying round, he’ll compete with the top athletes in the finals the following day. “My goal overall is to have fun and enjoy the ride, but make it through qualifying and kill it in the finals,†Peterson said. Peterson won’t be making the trip to Oklahoma alone. Three of his “American Ninja Warrior†training buddies, Brian Beckstrand, Jon Stewart and John Merrihew, have also been invited to compete in the competition. Like Peterson, they share a love for extreme challenges, and like Peterson, they’re all former Boy Scouts and now they form the Desert Ninjas “All the things that kids didn’t think they could do, ‘Ninja Warrior’ teaches those kinds of things,†Peterson said. “Overcome it.†The Desert Ninjas’ qualifying round, which was filmed in Oklahoma City, airs June 20 at 7 p.m. (check local listings for American Ninja Warrior) Left to right: Brian Beckstrand, Jon Stewart, Dakota Elder, Rick Pitcher and Dave Peterson http://www.ksl.com/?nid=1205&sid=39498104 http://www.ksl.com/?nid=1205&sid=34903829 https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2016/06/09/hsr-4-st-george-residents-take-on-american-ninja-warrior-course/