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At age 90. July, 1939 Eager to climb, Donn left his father and brothers behind, pushing on with Henry and Fred, when bad weather set in. Just as we reached the summit, the mist closed in around us and shut off our view of the mountain below, he said in Lost on a Mountain in Maine (1978), an as-told-to account of his adventure written with Joseph B. Egan. Ignoring the advice of his climbing mates, Donn headed back to rejoin his family. Lashed by rain and disoriented by the enveloping mist, he quickly became lost. And thus began his weeklong odyssey. Recalling his Boy Scout training, he decided to follow a small stream toward what he hoped would be a camp or town. At night, he curled up between tree roots and covered himself with moss. He ate wild berries. On the second day, tripping as he walked in the stream, he lost his sneakers, which he had tied together and carried over his shoulder. Not long after, trying to throw his soaked jeans onto a rock in the stream, he misjudged and watched as the water carried them away. I could not believe it he recalled in his book. My pants were gone." .... Small stones cut his feet. Near-freezing temperatures at night stiffened his limbs. Mosquitoes, black flies and moose flies bit. Somebody ought to do something about those black flies, Mr. Fendler said in Lost on a Mountain in Maine. They âre terrible around your forehead, under your hair, in your eyebrows and in the corners of your eyes and in the corners of your mouth, and they get up your nose like dust and make you sneeze, and you keep digging them out of your ears. He prayed. He hallucinated. One day, he heard a plane circling overhead but could not find a clearing to wave at it. Twice he encountered bears, foraging, as he was, for berries. He began to lose strength and hope, before the sight of telephone wires suggested to him that he was on the right track... Later he made a career in the US Army, earning his Green Beret. Check out the full story and slide show (showing him in scout uniform with a proper necker). http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/12/us/donn-fendler-who-was-lost-in-wilds-of-maine-as-a-boy-dies-at-90.html?_r=0 Other sources: https://www.millinockethistoricalsociety.org/lost-on-katahdin-1939-donn-fendler All scouts should read his book Lost on a Mountain in Maine. or the retelling Lost Trail: Nine Days Alone in the Wilderness Scout Salute and Farewell.

Freudian slip?

An inconvenient truth, merging councils does not grow total membership.Three years later, the membership sum of that geographic area will be less than the membership of its original parts.

Been there, good luck with that...write a letter to SE and National for all that it will help. Expect the BSA "nod and a wink" for your efforts. It is a rewarding experience for me when a scout refuses to turn in a signed MB because he felt the badge was not earned. Doesn't happen often but when it does it is Scouting.

What I am seeing is the Off-the Shelf, shovel-ready projects that DadScouts and CalicoPenn described.

Maybe I am an old grey-beard but this bothers me. I have noticed more "outside" groups advertising or even directly approaching troops with "Eagle projects". Sure this has happened in the past but from "inside" groups - parents, the CO, the scout's school or church...and I frowned on that too. IMO, the scout from his experience helping others should see the need for his Eagle project, not be provided with it. Character-building. Now these "outside" groups are public organizations that a scout could observe a need and develop his own Eagle project if he ever had prior contact, but these "outside" groups are scout-savy enough to promote their needs, some even have plans in hand with cost-estimates. All they need is money and who better to raise the funds via online funding than an Eagle scout candidate? ...or so what, scout got his Eagle and "outside" group got their (whatever), a win-win. My $0.01 for being grumpy.

"The Crossroads of America Scout Band is recognized as the OLDEST, continuously operating Scout Band in America! Founded as a Drum and Bugle Corps in 1917 by Mr. F.O. "Chief" Belzer to play at ceremonies at summer camp and other Council functions, the organization evolved into a full band by the early 1920's. The Band has a rich heritage and has toured throughout the United States, Canada and a trip to London, England to celebrate Scouting's 100th anniversary in 2007. The Band will be celebrating Scouting's 100th anniversary in America in 2010 and its own 100th anniversary in 2017! Have you been a member of the band? If so, please rejoin our group as we are looking for alumni to help us interpret our rich heritage as we near our 100th year!" Schedule of Events 2016-2017 http://www.scoutband.com/forms/2016-2017Calendar.pdf website http://www.scoutband.com/ Scout Salute,

Hopefully unsold liquor will be returned from where it came.

I dunno. Maybe the SE is making calls on distributors, bars, and college fraternities for donations.

"Fishing and hunting equipment chain Cabela's said it agreed to be bought by Bass Pro Shops in a deal valued at $5.5 billion that will help the privately held company nearly double its store count in North America. The offer of $65.50 per share is a 19.2 percent premium to Cabela's close on Friday. ... The combined company will own 184 stores in the United States and Canada." http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/03/bass-pro-shops-to-buy-cabelas-for-6550-a-share-in-cash.html Message from Bass Pro to employees and vendors, Q&A http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CFPageC?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&appID=87225

I wonder if that Denver Cub Scout camp will send some Hooters' girls over to help out?

First that I have heard of a Boy Scout Council directly applying for a liquor license for a fundraiser.I was more surprised by the statement that 100 per cent of the proceeds will go to the Grand Canyon Council. Better percentage than popcorn! http://mesaindependent.com/news/liquor-license-sought-for-boy-scouts-of-america-charity-event/ "On Monday, Oct. 3, The Mesa City Council (AZ) will consider a new liquor license for the Grand Canyon Council Boy Scouts of America for an 11 a.m.-6 p.m. Saturday, Dec. 3, charitable event at 2100 W. Rio Salado Parkway. Beer and wine will be served. The charity event is held in conjunction with the Taste of Arizona Festival. Food will be available for purchase at participating event vendors. A minimum of three off-duty officers and three private security personnel will provide roaming security and liquor control within a fenced event area. Identification will be checked by security personnel at the event entrance and wristbands will be issued to identify those patrons of legal drinking age. A total of 100 percent of the proceeds will go to Grand Canyon Council, Boy Scouts of America. The (city) council is slated to make a recommendation to the Arizona Department of Liquor License and Control."

Plan B - elope. The thrifty plan.

Me neither, so I included a link to his foundation. It was something to see those canoes roll across the ground from the prop wash.

1971. There is something to be said for tradition here. I have seen fellow dads and grandads (old Eagles) scratch their heads and wonder why? Maybe we are few and in time we'll be gone, so what. But we gray-beards can ask, why we had a higher percentage of Eagles attending their ECOH than do now and what is amiss.

My impression was there were some local variants of an Eagle pledge, promise, oath, charge,....and maybe NESA as it formed in the 70's felt the need to meddle and offer their version or two. I could be wrong. When I first encountered this, I thought as an Eagle that it was over the top and insulting. Don't dangle his Eagle at him and his parents by first requiring him to recite a different pledge, promise,..He has earned his Eagle, award it to him! He can stand tall wearing his Eagle and recite the Scout Oath and the Scout Law with his troop. When Eagles in the audience are asked to stand and recite these new, random Eagle promises/oaths/pledges/warranties/user-agreements, I remain seated. I will stand and recite just the Scout Oath and Law as I did at my ECOH. Another $0.02,

TULSA, Oklahoma - Half a dozen people were hurt at an event held by the Indian Nations Council of the Boy Scouts of America in Tulsa on Saturday, according to a witness. The event was held to announce that the creation of the Lion Program sponsored by the Hardesty Family Foundation. The program is aimed at expanding scouting opportunities to kindergarten-aged boys. A nurse who was there said a Black Hawk helicopter bringing Michelle and Roger Hardesty to the event at 101st and County Line Road swamped canoes in the water and also blew empty canoes on the shore into the crowd of people. The nurse said EMSA transported four adults and one child to the hospital. A news release from the foundation says the helicopter is owned by Roger Hardesty. http://www.newson6.com/story/33183816/several-hurt-in-helicopter-mishap-at-tulsa-boy-scout-event (video) http://www.hardestyfamilyfoundation.org/about.html

When and why were a separate Eagle oath and Charge created? Stick with the Scout Oath and Law. Seems like Festivus! My $0.02,

Did your scout store his recordings online?

The Smithsonian maintains an accessible archive of audio and video interviews of interesting people.for their Center of Folklife and Cultural Heritage. Audio portions are often played on NPR, I think the segment is "In Their Own Words." In every community — in families, neighborhoods, workplaces, and schools — there are people who have knowledge and skills to share — ways of knowing and doing that often come from years of experience and have been preserved and passed down across generations. As active participants in community life, these bearers of tradition are primary sources of culture and history. We hope that the Smithsonian Folklife and Oral History Interviewing Guide inspires you to turn to members of your own family and community as key sources of history, culture, and tradition. \http://www.folklife.si.edu/the-smithsonian-folklife-and-oral-history-interviewing-guide/smithsonian Does the Scouting Museum do something similar but focused on how scouting benefited their life? If so, someone should interview Mr. Rocky Gannon. http://www.shorenewstoday.com/upper_township/rocky-gannon-credits-boy-scouts-for-starting-remarkable-journey/article_40838c3e-8022-11e6-b7c0-735df65fcfa3.html

That link is an interesting read of varying opinions, learned and confused. Restore some balance... just one oath, the Scout oath please.

Two signatures on a check is a troop policy, not the bank's. We can go online and see the signatures on the scanned check if there are any doubts and respond accordingly. Our Council still accepts checks for all scout activities.

Hmmm, sounds like an insider job.

As I recall separate ECOH were the exception; they were a schedule accommodation made for a scout soon leaving for the service or college. Back in the day, my ECOH was part of a regular troop meeting COH. Fellow scouts were presented their rank awards ahead of me, the finale-Eagle. Now doesn't that make sense! It was a tight-run ceremony (90 minutes on a school night) much to relief of all present, including me. IMO, when separate ECOH became the rule rather than the exception, troops lost control and understandably so. Good luck to the BSA or Councils in trying to undo the present entitlement of 3-4 hour Eagle coronations.

The "answers" going around my District vary considerably, somewhat like asking what is the best ice cream. Here's a sampling from a side session at RT: Everything, it's just like a Blue & Gold The refreshments ...and cups and... Just the Eagle kit. Well certainly the Eagle kit but also the Eagle gift. No, the parents and scout decide what they want and pay for the whole thing themselves. Depends if there is any money in the Troop account. (There's always one wiseguy.) Also heard this question - Can a scout use his Scout account (yes still in use) to pay for his ECOH? Somewhat a pointless discussion, as people will continue to do whatever they want, particularly if their son is the Eagle having a COH.