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British Ex-Mil with good camera presence who made his name simulating survival situations for TV. His shows are fun to watch. He's been Scouts UK's Chief Scout for some time. And, yes, he gets a lot of attention. Flys in on helicopter to scout conventions, signs autographs, gives motivational speeches/videos. Projects a likable personality. Genius move on the part of Scouts UK. He's a good choice for highlighting what scouts do.

My religion is intrinsically linked to fundraising. Jesus spoke more about money than anything else! It's hardly a diversion from the topic!

You describe a pure hypothetical, and one that simply does not apply based on facts in evidence. Every event that @CodyMiller351 described made it clear that two or more 21+ers were present. It's also a problem if they take the boys pistol-shooting, or quad riding, or if they go swimming without qualified supervision. There's a laundry list of such pitfalls a troop -- especially a very small one -- should avoid, but if it looks like the troop is being compliant, bringing up such a list doesn't address any imminent problem. The imminent problem is an adult who doesn't want to step in line. Honestly, I don't think that has much to do with the young 1st ASM. I think this has to do with a dad who is insecure about how to take care of his boy and how to relate to others, so he is trying to carve out his niche in this group and do things "just so" for the sake of his personal comfort. Most of us have witnessed this in one form or another.

First class by Memorial Day is definitely achievable for any who crossover on MLK day. By Thanksgiving I could envision that some of those scouts would be looking at Star and yet be 5th graders (either by earning AoL quickly or by repeating a grade).

Reverent and cheerful are two sides of the same coin. But at the cub level, both translate poorly. Too serious sometimes for the one, and as this topic points out, too silly sometimes for the latter. We tempered this by, in addition to cub camp, going camping with the family and sending the kids to skills-based church camps.

@David CO and @Ranman328, the letter of the G2SS is not being violated. GrandPaw is the SM with three ASMs, of which @CodyMiller351 is the natural leader by delegation, recognition, and talent. They have enough 21-plus around that they need the "big tent" to keep them all under canvas. The YPT boxes are checked. Better yet, it seems GrandPaw and the other ASMs regard function over form along the lines that @Oldscout448 and @DuctTape are inclined to recognize. I don't know about you all, but when the SM tells me to do something along the lines of "run the troop in my absence", my job is scoutmaster. I get whatever credit or blame comes my way, and it doesn't get passed anywhere else. Same goes for my other ASMs. So, the title is "assistant" but the job is "scoutmaster." So what's needed here? Ways to help this assistant to become a better scoutmaster. Pretending that molehills are mountains ain't it.

I'm going to emphasize one word in @HashTagScouts post: Drug Abusers are not Scouts. Drug Pushers are not Scouts. Drug Dealers are not Scouts. It's gonna take time for this boy to prove that he is a scout. Until then, nothing is owed him except someone's boot.

Then buy yourself out of it! Our SM has been a good leader for a decade. Never had time for WB. When I finished my ticket, there was no discussion of him or any other scouter moving out so I could move in. Zero. Nix. Nada. I wouldn't have countenanced it. Apart from having a crew to advise, I would not have any scouts who I serve think that one guy spending a couple of weekends away from one's unit and a getting few goals met suddenly is a reason to shuffle a good thing. There might be other reasons to let another parent step up. But beadlessness should never be one of them.

Not necessarily. Schools have obligations to the community who funded their construction ... of which taxpayers who believe in scouting are as much a part as those who believe in sports. This is where having your fire chief as a former scout (and football player) comes in handy. ;) Permits can be revised at the last minute. But, it could be that, beyond indoor space, the troop factored in things like parking. The state soccer semi-final that I attended a couple weeks ago had no empty parking lots. The host school had multiple events throughout its facility that evening. At the end of the day, this is about helping citizens maximize the use of a shared resource. It's not always easy.

@fred8033 lays out the right questions. Unfortunately, it will be too late before you get an answer to the first two questions. A user/distributor cannot tell you in good faith that he will keep his product away from the troop and other kids. The forces that are giving him his drugs are doing everything in their power to make sure the rest of your troop, your school, and every kid in your community gets a sample of this product well before their adult brain kicks in. Users, especially young ones, can't help but share. The industry is counting on it. As to other kids avoiding the troop, well the opposite might happen. They might be drawn to this youth who knows all the good hikes to take to avoid getting caught. Like @FireStone said, even the most permissive parents who believe in scouting's purpose for their kids will view this as a risk. Until he's kicked the habit, his word that he'll keep it out of scouting is no good. He either is a scout or a user. And it simply takes time and tough love to figure out which he is.

I think the troop is missing an opportunity. Yes, it is very hard to work with re-arranged spaces (classrooms? cafeterias? hallways?) and to prepare vendors to move stuff. But, it is much harder to regain your customer base after a cancellation. Speaking of customers, some basketball and football players are also fans of the franchise, and their parents still have some shopping to do for Christmas. State championship? A lot of fans are wondering how they are gonna make up lost shopping hours with their kids. The squeeze would be tough, but lemonade sells just like lemons.

I took my kids oceanside rappelling! The outfitters told me they also arrange tours for scouts who were camping in the area. The boys could learn solid skills over a couple of days before they make their drops. Even during our family tour, Son #1 earned the climbing MB ... never turned in his blue card. I would recommend it to any small troop. It's fun dropping your kids off a cliff with the waves splashing below! Even more fun getting that picture of the smile on their face when they make the climb back up.

@Scoutmaster Teddy you are not in a predicament, you are in a pandemic. There are forces at play that benefit from inculcating cannabis dependence at an early age. They are operating on a national level. And, local entities (i.e., schools, police, etc ...) are turning a blind eye to the pleas of moralists. I've read about it here, then seen it play out first-hand almost as if it the malefactors read the posts of the scouters who reported on their problem year or two earlier. So, inasmuch as misery loves company, you are in good company. I'm so sorry. This is not a matter of an SM conference. Your youth are at risk. Your committee needs to decide how long the scout should be suspended, and on what conditions he should be allowed to return to troop life. Nothing personal against your CC, he has a tough row to hoe. But, if he is any good, he he'll support you and your families in making a decision that will keep other scouts safe while his boy decides if he really wants to be a scout.

For need #1, I think i would ... Show them this video from scouts South Africa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpMFkcSn5IM Say that We help youth grow up strong and good. We do that by instilling a vision of the pinnacle scouting experience: hiking and camping independently with your mates. Scouts who stick with it master skills that help them make the world a better place. Introduce them to my SPL. I already do the second and third step. I usually don't have a device with me to show the video. But, any scouter who does, should.

Has anyone used or considered using this official presentation? Up- or down- vote if you've used it and liked/disliked the results. Pick an emoji if you have an opinion without having actually used it.

Our CC has a troop handbook (mostly power-point print-out). It's not too detailed, but goes over some basics step-by-steps, who-does-what, key dates, etc .... He prefers to get new parents in the same room to go over it. He then asks one of the ASMs to drop in an fill in some of the blanks. @Treflienne, it sounds like you're doing one-on-one with prospective parents. (Even if they are in the same room, their diversity will make any given presentation feel like one-on-one.) That's a little different.

I've seen some of those Kentucky hollers. The "right" 4 miles could crush body and soul, even split over two days! By the way, backpacking in the snow is an awesome experience ... a bit of a head-game balancing what you need to keep warm and how light you have to go. But the sheer beauty is worth the price of admission.

6. Irritate crew as you and a committee member stop mid trail to discuss if you are looking at a tall beech or mutant hickory. (It was an English Hornbeam.)

@Tom243, welcome to the forums! There's a reason this is optional. Most boys would not be satisfied calling it "snow camping" without the snow. Even, up in Western PA, we can get years where our winter camps turn unseasonably warm. Keep planning monthly camp outs like you usually do. Toss in variety (maybe even an out-of-council klondike derby in parts north) and in the process you'll knock out one or more of the other 9b options. Who knows? You might wake up with a white blanket everywhere outside your tents on one of those days!

BTW: ours was not a backpacking troop, and water purification was foreign to us. I remember nighttime insertions where we would go back those hundreds of yards to shuttle the 20 gal army surplus water bottle! Next time, talk to the state park ranger about a primitive site removed from the cars. Grandpaw's still "wearing the patch." So, commit to sitting down with him to review each weekend you all go on. Just give him the good, the bad, and the ugly as you saw it. Most of SM's and Advisor's get a reputation for not being the easiest people to deal with. The more adults you deal with the more you'll understand why. It might seem like a nuisance, but in the long run all that talk might make you a team.

So, how far from your vehicles were you when you difficult leader started blowing smoke about the big tent? Honestly, growing up, our SM never parked the car within eyesight of the camp. Note: I said "car" -- singular because the other drivers dropped us off and picked us up at the end of the weekend. I think you need to bounce this off of Grandpaw, and have him tell it like it is to these adults. The result might not always go your way. But, if he lays out a standard of conduct, your odds of this errant adult falling in line are a little better.

Simple plan (one you can explain to the boys): choose each campsite twice as far from the cars as was chosen on the previous campout. By the end of spring, you'll be hiking in a quarter mile; summer, a mile or two; late fall, four to six miles. Boys grow fast! Call the rangers at most camps, they will be more than happy to set this up for you. Many have special sites set aside for folks to hike into. Others have trails or canoe treks between a sister camp. Three adults + three scouts. That, some rope, and some tarps ... and you're good to go. Give your adults full warning that they are to get in shape or find someone trustworthy who is. The "big tent" is to be the exception, not the rule. Don't worry, there'll still be plenty of opportunities for close quarters: camporees, webelos weekends, etc ... but your scouts will get the idea and maybe share it with a buddy or two, and hopefully by the end of the year they'll be a tight knit patrol and your difficult leader will worship the ground you walk on.

I see a lot of back-country backpacking trips in your future!

I think that's the point. If the majority of your campers are subsidized, best let everyone know. I bet the families who do pay tier A will be sent a targeted FOS letter. Not sure if it will work for them, but if it does you'll be seeing it in a council near you pretty soon.

It's good to hear of a patrol of older girls willing to give it a run!