John-in-KC

Moderator's Note: Folks, remember, the Federal Aviation Administration has rules on small UAS as well: Here is the FAA page for "flying UAS for fun" Read the summary of the FAA rules on small UAS here Here's the website for UAS at the FAA

Not true. Look at the list again. There's nothing that says Woodbadge is limited to SM/ASM positions. The CC, COR, and MCs can attend, and they have a different training matrix. The requirement is trained for your position.

Although instructor staff at PTC get varying degrees of nicer accommodations, including space in Villa Philmonte.

IMO: As well it should be...

Off to summer camp this thread goes.

Read this and comment... Remember: Friendly, Courteous, Kind

Good advice here! @@Fehler, the Scout Oath and Law aren't broken. Don't fix them., Use them as your tools in the box to keep bullying from happening. Use the techniques described here.

Understanding the business case is one thing. Liking it is another. The business case is simple: The local council licenses Scouting to a Partner to renew a Troop. ScoutNet visibility moves from Troops to youth members, with no stops at patrol.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: PLEASE STOP THE "HE SAID, SHE SAID". STICK TO THE TOPIC. Thank you.

Post Scriptum: There is never such a thing as no unit commissioner. If there is no volunteer performing that function, the District Commissioner has the duty. If no district commish, the Council Commish and the DE have the duty.

If there is an issue about a chartered partner abusing the terms of the charter (license), the reporting path is direct contact leaders (SM/CM/Adv/CC) to unit commissioner, who in turn contacts the district commissioner and the district executive. The DC/DE in turn assess what level, if any, of intervention they need to use to bring the partner back into compliance. There are times direct contact leaders think there's an issue ... but cooler heads up the food chain decide otherwise. Remember, Scouting has limited resources in manpower, and enforces only what it needs to.

Welcome. Beavah is a Scouter of long term, and professionally he has some idea of the matters involved in family law and domestic violence. I commend to you his advice.

This is why Commissioners exist. If the Chartered Partner needs to learn about Scouting, ask the DE and the Commish covering the Partner to sit down with the IH and COR for a friendly cup of coffee someplace off-site. Share Scouting's story. One of two things will happen: - The CP will not make an issue of it. Problem solved - The CP decides to not renew the charter. Then the DE finds a new partner. Problem solved. This is not difficult, and happens all the time around the Nation, for a myriad of reasons.

When I was a youth member, my Council camp issued groceries, and we cooked 3 meals a day in the campsite.

Stay to the topic at hand, folks... Sentinel mentioned this once this very morning. Now, as to the topic: Let's read the Declaration of Religious Principles again, shall we? From Clause 3, Freedom: "In no case where a unit is connected with a church or other distinctively religious organization shall members of other denominations or faiths be required, because of their membership in the unit, to take part in or observe a religious ceremony distinctly unique to that organization or church." "However, no church or religious organization holding a valid charter shall be required to accept as youth members or adult leaders any person whose espoused personal beliefs are in conflict with the chartered organization’s religious principles." @@Beavah might be a little better at the plain reading of language stuff than I. Two sentences comprise Clause 3. I broke them apart for reading. If a youth has a belief in God, the chartered partner does not get to proselytize into their own system. Further, I see nothing in the clause which justifies excluding a child who is simply unchurched from Scouting. Now, if the parents actively refuse to bring him to worship (anywhere, any denomination), then there might be a ground for exclusion. If you are interested, here is the May 21, 2015 edition of the Charter and Bylaws of the Boy Scouts of America.

1) Heart of America Council does not allow troop trailers in campsites at either Theodore Naish or H Roe Bartle. 2) The best way to physically secure a laptop is to use a locking cable, and loop the noose over a portion of a picnic table (if outside promises little risk of wet weather) or a floorboard in your tent. 3) As far as securing your system and information, first encrypt, and second, put a complex user password to access the box in the first place. 4) With regard to blw's comment, with some businesses, and the US Government, it's non-negotiable to physically secure your laptop.

Published by the Eastern Carolina Council on their official book face page! @@Beavah, dou you think @@RichardB will have a hissy fit?

Moderator's Note: Let's stay to the topic of breastfeeding by Scout parents or Scouters so capable ;-) doing it where youth can see, please.

It's always fun to see people walk into Beavah's den and not realized he's a very well trained attorney...He's no fool and he gets paid to know stuff to win arguments. We now return you to this ongoing debate.

Moving to I&P, so there's a little more latitude in commenting.

If I were the CSE... - JTE would run not Jan 1 - Dec 31, but recharter planning meeting to recharter planning meeting (the night you get your packets. - It would be a report do not have to give input to, tapping into the volumes of data BSA and Councils collect on youth: -- Advancements, in rank and merit badges. -- Long term camping. -- For units using Council properties, short term camping. -- Membership joins in the previous year -- Migration of youth from previous charter year (age-outs and drop-outs) -- FOS participation All of that is there. Input service hours from Eagle projects. That can be done by simply adding a requirement to Eagle: Record service hours in the National database. You will be given a logon and password when your Eagle app is returned by Council as ready for EBOR. Voila. You've hit membership, program, money, and service in one fell swoop, and with the exception of service, the unit didn't have to do a keystroke. National has its metrics, and the IH/COR/CC/Leader have a tool.

I assume 10 months short term camping each year. That's 250. I assume an annual long term camp at a penurious 200. Thats 450. Add in your 60 and the unit is collecting 510 per youth per year. What is your annualized cost, @@MrBob?

Moderator's Note: If you wish to discuss the license/franchise/charter of Scouting between a partner and a council, then I suggest you open a new topic in Council Relations. This is about a youth member not advancing to Eagle. There may be issues of unit ownership, but the greater matter here is the advancement within the situation

The Jouney to Excellence... - is Metric Management - is done by volunteers - with crappy tools I'm not thrilled about metric management in the first place. Youth aren't numbers, they're people. We are trying to get them to play the great game. That is all.

Don't get me started on JTE...