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If your SE was like the one I worked for, if you or your family complain, the DE will get in trouble. Had one friend have his head handed to him because someone thought teh membership goal he was given was not doable. I heard the SE "talking" to him through a closed door and several feet away. Had another friend new to council and position, who was cleaning up a mess that one of his predecessors caused, but who was working for the council. Working with his Key 3, they noticed some challenges in membership, and one of them wrote a letter of concern, That friend lost about 20-30 unnecessar

If a knot is retired and replaced with another knot, i.e. Silver Fawn recipients can wear the Silver Beaver regalia, , since they were officially replaced and consolidated, I would not have any qualms. For example. I got the TC DL knot. I would have no problem wearing a CSDL knot with the TC device, if they ever create one.

I can live with the traditional necker, even if worn under an open collar (West and Bill must be spinning ) but the tar flap necker looks silly IMHO. I WANT MY "BUGS" BACK ON COVERS AGAIN! (yep me shouting). And glad unit numbers are back as well as the WC being worn FINALLY. Have to agree though, need more focus on promoting Scouting's red headed step child. Kinda sad when I could count the number of Sea Scouts and leadera at the DC parade in 2010 on my fingers and toes, and the float that was suppose to have all of the Scouting's emblems on it was missing the First Class Anchor. And H

Don't know about now, but i do know council will back date records of REGISTERED (emphsasis, not shouting) prior to SCOUTNET. One of my Eagles was some how listed as a First Class Scout when his paperwork for eagle was submitted. between copies of his BSHB and troop copies of the advancement reports, council corrected the records, Also pre1989 and the removal of time requirements for T-2-1, I had "challenges" with my Eagle as the dates council had contradicted what was in my BSHB. Come to find out the registrar at teh time was putting in the dates she entered the info, not the dates on t

1) Again unless things changed Momis correct. 2) If sibs do go to day camp it's usually in a day care format for staff only. 3) Wayne Brock, our current CSE, allowed some councils to pilot programs when he was one of the ACSEs. So this may be from that.

Career Arrow plaque. When I found out how much they were, I lamost had a heart attack. I bet I can find someone to make them in the pack.

Unfortunately we are in a no win situation. If we change the policy, I feel we will lose at least 20 % of our members, if not more. This is based upon the group of councils asking for time to study the question and get input from the members and parents, or as they put it, "the stakeholders." Also don't forget, those pushing for the change will not be happy with local options as "It's a good first step" as one gentleman put it. And if we keep the current policy, we become a cultural paraiah.

I still remember the first time I read about the New Orleans troop that was started with the express purpose of mollesting kids in the 1970s. Better safe than sorry.

ntil about '97, scouts could only vote for up to half the slate: 5 or 6 eligible meant no more than three elected. If you had six voters, two eligible and it was a 3-3 tie, I think they went to another round of ballots before decarling no one was elected. Actually I know of one troop that used some type of formula to elect everyone into the OA when they had an odd number of scouts eligible under the old method. Don ask me what it was, but I saw it happen when I supervised an election and it blew my mind. Some time after the election, I heard the SM bragging about how he figured out how to g

Like some, I have some concerns about the possible change in policy. The New Orleans troop in the 1970s that was started by homosexuals with the express purpose to molesting youth keeps popping up in my mind. I always wondered why my mom bugged the heck out of me after every camp out, and the occasional meeting, about possible molestation. It was only when I was in college and doing a report on sexual abuse did I find out about the unit mentioned above. When talking to my mom, she said it was one reason why she didn't push my brothers to find a new troop once they moved. And it was the re

Marines are not known for tearing up or crying. Especially crusty old retired SgtMajs. who did 3 wars. But one such Devil Dog I knew would have a hint of a tear in his eyes whenever he saw Cubs doing a flag ceremony no matter how well or poorly, they did. So yes Scouting still matters. Now Boy Scouts he would offer positive feedback and work with them, but summer camp staff, you better not screw up!

WHAT? A CQU patch is causing this/ And as others pointed out, why is a committee member getting involved in a SMC? To quote the 9th Doctor, "RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!"

Sentinel, When Exploring split into two programs in 1998, I know some career exploration posts that should have remained Explorer posts switch COs from government agencies to 'Friends of..." or XYZ civic group, and become Venturing crews due to homosexual issue. So Beavah has a point.

Oak, Some COs take it very seriously, while the majority do not. I've heard of some rejecting adults b/c they were not members of the church. I've heard of some reject leaders b/c they had a past criminal record which BSA would allow if the COR approved ( Didin't even get that far, CO said "No" when the app came through for their signature.) I've heard of a CO actually calling or talking to some of the references on the application. I've heard of a CO who did not want an adult as CM b/c they were involved in Scouting as a youth.

JBlake, Do Not Remind Me! I lost a family because the pack didn't camp enough.

Quaz, Unfortunately there is a bit of a anti-Cub Scout bias in my neck of the woods. Although most of the really old fogeys know me from my DE and heavy involvement with the OA days, some of the younger ones who have the attitude may not know me since I've been Cubbing for the past 4 years. The Anti- Cub bias is slowly going away, and I praise our current SE for that, but the bias is going away too slowly for me. To quote Inigo Montoya, "I hate waiting." 'Rat, HA is also what kept me involved as well. I was fortuante in that A) my council did have a HA program at summer camp, B)ha

Ok Folks, I am teaching a class on retaining older scouts. I've done a bit of research and will be working on this more, but I would like to here your experiences, ideas to keep them, etc etc. Anything at all to help keep youth in. Below is my outline. How to Retain Older Scouts Outline I. "Why is a Blue Loop teachign this class?" Introduction of Myself II. Why Older Scouts Leave and Possible Solutions A. NEVER ASK AN ADULT CAN WHAT A SCOUT TELL YOU. How to Find out What's the problem. 1. SM Conferences 2. Boards of Review 3. PLC meeting

BNelon, Page 7 of the IOLS syllabus: "Each participant must be able to complete and check each skill form a task list, just like a scout does ( bold in original).... Leaders should encourage this method when instructing in their own units."

Watching,or rather listening, to the link now. #1 Don't just read a script have actors ACTING. #2 What this about a scout coming directly from a baseball game not needing a uniform at 3:46? Why don't he just bring the uniform on a hanger and change at the meeting in the bathroom. that's what we did in my troop. Heck one COH I had to make 2 changes in the bathroom: out of coat and tie from school function into uniform before ECOH, then change out of the uniform and back into coat and tie to go to the school function. HORSEHOCKEY TO THAT ONE. Being new, outgrown, in the proce

While the MBs and advancement are not certifications in the legal sense, they are in a realistic sense. As mentioned previously mastery of skills was the expectation, and if a scout had First Class, it was expected that he had the knowledge, skills, and abilities (KSAs) to lead a patrol on their own on an overnite expereince. Even the G2A states that the badge being worn should represent what a Scout is capable of doing and not what he has done. EDITED: Best examples of this are the SCOUTS IN ACTION cartoons in Boys' Life, and Whitey doing the rescue on the patrol hike in FOLLOW ME BOYS.

How about this as a standard: Would you feel comfortable with the scout using the skills learned in an emergency situation where your life is on the line? That was the standard for sign off in my old troop. And one of the scouts from my troop saved my life probably when I got hypothermia. Now a story I heard a part of, but got a fuller story recently. A Scout troop was backpacking on the AT when their SM had a heart attack. The SM had no history of heart disease prior to the trip. Troop stabilized him using basic FA MB skills to stabilize him and transport him to an evac point.

I will say this about the national advancement folks, THEY DID A GREAT JOB WITH SECOND CLASS 3E AND F REQUIREMENTS! ( shouting for joy with this one.) See changes here! http://usscouts.org/advance/changes/advchanges13.asp#scout

Richard, B/C BSA will more than likely use the stats internally only and not allow volunteers in the field access to them. Further I can see those stats being used to take more of the OUTING out of ScOUTING. Our society today is to the point that if getting rid of an "unnecesssary" activity or tool will prevent 1 tragic death, then that uneccessary activity needs to get banned. Best example in the BSA are the restrictions on pioneering projects to 5 feet and under unless inspected by a COPE inspector and everyone having harnesses and brainbuckets. Best societal example are

Way to much paperwork. Can't we use common sense?

My thoughts First Aid Wilderness First Aid (a new merit badge in my fantasy world -- similar to the Swimming/Lifesaving "continuum") Personally I do not know why FA MB cannot have WFA skills. It's been a while since I read the WFA stuff, can't affford the course or instructor cert yet, but a lot of what I read reminded me of my FA MB class way back in the day. Yes we sat some and practiced some skills, then we took some hikes with scenarios thrown in to make us use those skills. Best FA course I ever took, or have taught so far. A heck of a lot better than watching a video for AHA