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  1. This has been debated previously and there are differing opinions. That said, organizations are responsible for both paid staff and volunteers. If an organization was so poorly run and organized to allow volunteers to repeatedly rape children, I do think that organization should be held accountable. In addition, there is evidence that BSA intentionally covered this up. While I understand society changed over time (background checks didn't exist in the past) I really struggle with the cover up that seemed to be occurring at national. BSA could have decided to fight this in court, but t
    5 points
  2. Not in the early 70's when I was abused. I heard that my abuser (BSA Camp Employee) was just a little funny that way. It was laughed off. So you go ahead and preach the Gold Standard, while I will alternate between crying and laughing. But you know what, OJO? I'm not here to debate. I'm here to discuss pertinent information on the settlement. Frankly, admin, I would like to see the forum stick to the topic at hand so the forum itself does not result in additional damage to any victim/survivor. Myself included.
    2 points
  3. Allow me to point out a few facts to you: Majority of claims involved BSA employees and volunteers at the local level and the courts had already established that the LC's were directly connected to national. For most of the abused due to their young age they had no recollections of their abusers' names. BSA would not give the troop rosters or other info to help anyone recollect. BSA did know what was happening hence the perversion files. Because of threats and feelings of shame/guilt a vast majority of survivors told no one or very few people of what happened to them. Eve
    2 points
  4. That the parties agreed to the Purdue or BSA or any other plan seems like the weakest argument I can think of. If the non consensual releases were illegal then neither side would agree to the plan and something altogether different would have happened. The question should be are these releases valid under the law as written. Parties agreeing to something under a faulty view of the law and therefore a flawed view of what the consequences of not settling is arguing that the outcome must be right because it is the outcome.
    2 points
  5. Starting salary range for DE is not much higher in metro areas. Southern New England, it's set at about $42,000/year. To put that into perspective, my local Dunkin Donuts is hiring at $17/hour to start. The Taco Bell a town over has a big help wanted sign out, starting wage up to $19/hour. Turnover is and has been high in my council and neighboring councils for as long as I've been involved as an adult, and I would say that the majority who have come and gone that I have interacted with have been good individuals, they just have come to realize they can make more money and work a less stressfu
    2 points
  6. 75 Years ago the American Humanics Foundation was started for the purpose of training and educating youth agency professionals. a half a dozen colleges were cultivated to offer degrees in Humanics and many of the professors were past professionals from the BSA. They changed in 2011... (https://nla1.org/donation/) but many of their graduates entered the BSA workforce and were solid professionals. We (I was one) were taught about cultivating community organizations and resources, recruiting and keeping volunteers, fund raising and program development. These are degrees that are much needed in th
    1 point
  7. I listened closely to the SCOTUS hearing today, and spoke to several attorneys after, all of whom have a history in reading SCOTUS "tea leaves." What made today a bit tricky were the underlying feelings/hatred for the Sacklers. Cutting through that though this dealt with the existing law and the inconsistency between Districts as to how they treat third-party releases. The media is portraying this as the Court having strong feelings both ways. It usually does because it queries attorneys on both sides of their arguments. My takeaway, and it was confirmed by the attorneys I spoke to, was
    1 point
  8. That's just a portion, but I beg you, please, spend some time and go WAY back to dig into the posts on this topic. While there are opposing views, there is a great deal to be learned from the posts. In the words of the late Senator Moynihan, "Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but they are not entitled to their own facts."
    1 point
  9. Thanks for the update... makes sense so friends of AOL's crossing over can join up with them...
    1 point
  10. Meaning no disrespect to survivors... if any youths were abused by council staff then they ought to receive a significant settlement from that council. The vast majority of cases were volunteers that violated the trust of parents, chartered partners and the youth. Those are the ones that ought to be in jail and pay compensation. 1.4 billion divided by 82k comes out to around $1,700 per person on average. That is inadequate for anyone that was sexually abused. Having said that, the vast majority of scouts were not abused and had a positive experience in the program. To force councils to deplet
    1 point
  11. We can agree that distributing a sizable portion of BSA assets to law firms is a crying shame. Beyond that, the fact that BSA is allowed to survive at all, after its employee molested me and so many others were victimized.... that's the bad deal. But just fyi, this is a forum where survivors are trying to work through grief. So, go troll Elon and give the BSA victims some peace please.
    1 point
  12. All of what you say here is very disrespectful to survivors.
    1 point
  13. Personally I think the settlement was a bad deal for the BSA for a number of reasons. The NBC documentary said that of the 2.4 BILLION that the claiments would get 1.4 Billion (average $1,700) and the lawyers would split 1 Billion. Makes a lot of lawyers and law firms very wealthy. Most of the claims (90%) were over 30 years old. Very few cases involved BSA employees or camp staff as abusers so why sue the BSA and not the abusers? The lawyers went for the deep pockets... imagine trying to track down 10's of thousands of predators, many of whom had died and others with little or no assets. In s
    1 point
  14. 30% is probably due to the IRS rules. The fact that your current pack puts all into the scout account is probably violating the IRS rules on dollar-for-dollar non-profit fundraising and the personal benefit rules.
    1 point
  15. Update Dec 4, 2023: "WAYNESBORO- On behalf the Washington Township Supervisors, Chairman Stewart McCleaf presented a certificate of appreciation to Boy Scout members who constructed the Owls Habitat in Antietam Meadows Park earlier this fall. Scouts who were able to attend the presentation answered questions about owls they’ve seen in the area, when they expect it to be occupied and how they would periodically clean it out each year. They said they would share the award with other members of their troop who participated in building and installation." More at source
    1 point
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