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We also encourage all our parents take YPT so they understand the rules as laid out, both to govern their own behavior and as a backstop on others'. Of course not everyone takes us up on it, which is fine, but we do REQUIRE that anyone camping with us complete the training. I know that unregistered adults on campouts will soon be a thing of the past, and I understand the arguments for and against. For us, until the rules change, we're concerned primarily with the behaviors YPT lays out. A background check will weed out only those who have been convicted of malfeasance, the training helps g

Two seeparate versions of the program. The British or likely original BP concept leading to hopefully a smoother transition. In the Patrol system, as noted by Hillcourt, yes the patrol members would vote for a patrol leader, ideally. But, as understood, I believe, there is an adult option to veto that in "rare" circumstances. But, that should be the last option; often the floundering youth finds his way and surprises us. As adults, it can be very hard to watch the new leaders struggle, but that is part of the process.

That's also why BSA should follow the WOSM rules and guidelines that it has committed to, which includes "Scouting reflects the societies in which it exists and actively works to welcome all individuals without distinction of any kind. This diversity should not only be reflected in the membership, but also in the methods and programmes used within the Movement." So, we should welcome all individuals without distinctions of any kind. If the BSA absolutely cannot abide this, it should exit WOSM and leave the field free for another organization to become the WOSM-aligned NSO in th

You speak as though they were wrong to ask for that privilege. One of my pack's assistant Cubmasters is himself an alumnus of the pack. He continued on to a local troop and earned his Eagle rank. He's everything anyone should want in a Scout leader. Also he's gay. He and his husband (who holds no uniformed leadership position) contribute a good deal of time and effort to helping the pack go. What kind of lesson would we be teaching their sons to say their dads aren't fit to be Scout leaders, based on nothing more than who is in their family? It's not a positive lesson, that's for sure. Ma

National policy.

I also hope strict adherence to rules would apply to any forthcoming directives from the BSA concerning the use of Native American traditions.

We encourage all of our parents to take YPT. We're not registering them all, but having them understand the YP requirements of the BSA is extremely helpful in having them understand how the unit operates and why somethings may or may not happen. For example, when we have to cancel an outing due to lack of registered leaders.

the real oxymoron here the phrase unregistered leader as if they are not registered at some level they are not a scout leader. so to lost application until a person showed up with a number and ypt on file they are not a registered leader as they must clear a background checks sorry the office is so lazy or careless.

Yes, you can take YPT training without being a registered Scouter in any position. Our council, at least, requires it be completed before you are allowed to register as an adult. We have always required adults using the 72 hour rule to complete it, and ask our drivers too, as well. We encourage all parents to take it, but, you know...

My observation and experience is that 90% of units function this way. Should that be so surprising! Excluding the Mormons, the theme of scouting is developing character though outdoor activities. The common interest are the activities, not a particular religions. This is a little strange to me. Maybe the adults don't talk about religion, but the scouts sure do. And, we had several atheist families in both the Cubs and Troops. The parents want their sons to experience life and make their own choices. Activist make is sound like Scouting is a hard core exclusive program. But, most leader

Nah, those folks excluded themselves. They decided they didn't want to associate with an organization that would have openly gay people as members. They could have decided otherwise. This is not equivalent to the BSA telling people they can't join. LDS individuals who want to join are still welcome to do so.

Hard line opinion: if someone wants to join a baseball team, they agree to play by the rules, period. If someone wants to join Scouting then play by the rules. The BSA is a private organization that requires an application and a membership fee. Its not something that everyone has a right to join so follow the rules or go find something else to do. To allow everybody to be a member infringes on the rights of those who become members BECAUSE OF THE RULES. I have never seen a club that changes the rules to please everybody and make everybody happy without regards to the desires of the memb