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This all comes down to quality control. District Executives need to have enough strength in their spine to kill the charters of known bad units. Reading what you wrote makes me think Scouting America needs some sort of relegation program where unit review (JTE or whatever) is mandatory and the worst unit gets de-chartered every year. In my area, all of the little Lord Farquaads would soil their pants with fear of losing their fiefdoms and actually get trained and run the program as designed. To both of these statements I can only say that there are a lot of things in scouting that are not scouting. People want slingshots, and trebuchets, and yadda-yadda but we really need to figure out why we can't do back-to-the-basics things like pioneering a watch tower (which goes back to BPs original program). I am not advocating for an anything goes pioneering program like in the movies but I think we should focus on fighting for things that have been safetied out of the program that really are part of the program. -
By InquisitiveScouter · Posted
I wanted to agree with you, but then we both would have been wrong. You stated "empathy is not part of the Scout Oath or Scout law. Putting ones self in the position of another to understand theater point of view is an example of a mature and well reasoned leader and individual. No where else is that in what is required in scouting. Nor is tolerance in the Scout Oath or Law. Tolerance for the fact not everyone see things the same way, based on their background, education, or opportunities. " Your statement showed, at best, complete ignorance of what the Scout Oath and Law mean. Or, at worst, incompetence, stupidity or malice.... I chose to see your statements as a result of the former. You can reply however you wish, Chief. I attempted to make no case. I appealed to the source. The Scout Oath and Law, and their explanations in the Scout Handbook made their own case, which you should have known and been intimately familiar with before you said something like "...empathy is not part of the Scout Oath or Scout law." and the rest of your non sequiturs. -
Comingling is a huge problem at every level in scouting as I can tell. Comingling is what is going to get every scout account using unit in trouble eventually. I think it's poor legal judgement. Personally I think the accountants and legal at national know we have an accounting problem at every level but there is not enough where-with-all in the national team to do something about it at this time. I am tepidly optimistic that once national retires all of the debt related to the settlement and restructuring that the national leadership will force the accounting and legal leadership to deal with the comingling issues at all levels in the organization to avoid any situations of the IRS crushing units or councils like a tin can.
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For me the issue was a two point problem. First of all the Citizenship in Society Merit Badge requirements for Merit Badge Counselors were the most stringent and only MBC leadership requirements universally enforced in scouting. To council the merit badge you had to have your MBC training complete prior to the special MB train-the-trainer session, and you had to sign a special contract above and beyond the MBC requirements attesting that you would not add to, remove from, or steer, or alter the merit badge materials. A fine process; however, no such process for any other merit badge. The fact that national knows that the merit badge program is compromised with unqualified and incompetent councilors and did nothing to improve or ensure quality control on the rest of the merit badge program pissed me off. Second of all the Citizenship in Society Merit Badge itself is the only merit badge without a test of knowledge or skill. As structured the merit badge simply did not have the legs to stand on to be considered a merit badge and never should have been in its structure and condition entered into the merit badge program. This is the weak minded straw argument of the left. No one, not even Hegseth or any of choogy boys have said they want to kick girls out. What has been stated publicly and everything that has leaked has literally only been about concerns about political indoctrination and deviation from the true purpose of the program. Trans kids have always had this dilemma. Scouting Americas policy has always been that registration must align to gender within the confines of the state and federal laws governing the geography of the area of the unit. This argument is a nothing burger, this is a no change. NOTHING IS CHANGING in regards to this for anyone in Scouting America. This right here is actually part of the problem that Hegseth and his toadies are rallying against. The mission statement of Scouting America has somehow deviated quite a bit from our congressional chartered purpose [which is]: That the purpose of this corporation shall be to promote, through organization, and cooperation with other agencies, the ability of boys to do things for themselves and others, to train them in Scoutcraft, and to teach them patriotism, courage, self-reliance, and kindred virtues, using the methods which are now in common use by Boy Scouts. Our membership is down to 1946 levels. 50 years of experimentation and deviation from the core mission of the program led us from a membership peak of 4 million scouts in 1970 to 821,000 scouts in 2026. With the doors open to male and female scouts our membership should be at a new record level, not collapsing towards mediocrity. Trying to push all of these other things, secondary mission statements, tertiary vision statements, derivative after derivative after derivative; all these watered down straying from the roots things are what are killing this organization.
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terms you use to refute the value of the MB are "feel good requirement" and " no challenge." The mission of Scouting America is to prepare young people to make ethical and moral choices over their lifetimes by instilling in them the values of the Scout Oath and Law. Its vision to make people good citizens. Understanding people makes them good citizens. It does not need to be hard, but knowing how it see others from thier point of view is a mature and effective tool to be a good citizen. You think there are no answers to the terms and that they can make you Racist. There are definitions. They are in the training that the MB Counselors have to take: Key definitions included in the materials: Identities: Traits that make up who a person is, including race, gender, age, religion, and ability. Diversity: The presence of a wide range of individual identities. Equality: The state of having equal status, rights, and opportunities. Equity: Providing resources tailored to individuals to ensure fair access to opportunities. Inclusion: Active efforts to create a sense of belonging and participation for all individuals. Discrimination: The unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people. If a scout does not understand them, then we talk about them. Maybe you can explain now they are racist.
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