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  1. Fellow Scouters, Greetings again! Sometimes an Eagle Mill and running the program as designed may be synonymous. IMHO.. I discuss with Scouting friends that trail to Eagle Scout should be an accomplishment not necessarily a struggle. If it is a monumental achievement, outstanding for the newest Eagle, my biggest and hearty congratulations!! If it is just an achievement, great, kudos, and a sincere "good job" to the newest Eagle. If a unit has an actual program, then Eagle Mill may be synonymous. It would be a Scout or family that would be falling short of the avail
  2. kahits and Fellow Scouters, Regarding the PreJamboree tours and excursions. Yes.. It can be a monumental challenge, moving Troops of 40. Some councils send a few troops so that would be 40, 80, 120, or more Scouts and Scouters. They plan and work on the agenda over a year out from Jamboree. For example, it would seem to run like precision clockwork; breakfast at a nice restuarant, white water rafting, lunch on the shores, tour a battle field in the afternoon, dinner at another restuarant, then sleep at a military academy. Then get up the next morning to hit a museum or
  3. Kahits, Greetings! You've already received a few good answers. I'll repeat what a fellow posters have already stated, but I've seen it in a few council Jamboree budget breakdowns over the years. Beyond attendance and transportation cost. Some councils have purchase new canvas tents, cots, benches and dining flies, just for Jamboree. But even more, much of the remaining cost is usually for a week long high adventure excursions and historic East Coast tours (all meals included still driving up the cost). Such as the Military Academy, white water rafting, rapelling, NYC Emp
  4. Fellow Scouters, Greetings! I never intended to highjack the discussion. But, I never look at the BSA as being a charity. I was attempting to reply and offer my opinion to SMEagle819 comment. "Youth members shall not be permitted to serve as solicitors of money for their chartered organizations, for the local council, or in support of other organizations." Now forgive me if I am misinterpreting this, but shouldn't this apply to popcorn sales?" To clarify for Beavah, I sincerely respect your comments, but I think you are misinterpreting my post. I do see selling a
  5. Fellow Scouters, Yeah.. I may be a little sensitive about donations. Allow me to clarify, when I say it irks me. I meant in regard to fellow Scouters that speak on behalf of the entire BSA. Or the falsely represent the district or council. For example when we do the community FOS drive, and local businesses state they have already made generous contributions to the Scouts. Which is partially true, they made generous contributions, but to one pack, troop, or Eagle Scout project, stating they were representing all Scouts. Or local businesses that do not want to con
  6. Fellow Scouters, Seasons Greetings! Hopefully without stirring more controversy.... Here are my thoughts. I appreciate what the Salvation Army does in our communities and around the world. I personally learned this during the National Prayer Breakfast about a decade ago. The Salvation Army is a church and religious denomination. It does have its charities (red kettle) which all proceeds benefit the community while sharing the Bible and the doctrine. It doesn't offend me, I was just surprised. I guess you can say I was naive and it never clicked until a few Salvati
  7. wbcarley, Greetings again! It is certainly understandable for a Scoutmaster to have high expectations. Or, At least I would call them Troop desires. I applaud that you have high standards for your Troop. There are examples of how troops should perform in the Boy Scout handbook, Scoutmaster Handbook and the Troop Program Helps and Features. As well as modeling from Introduction to Outdoor Leadership Skills, Wood Badge and National Youth Leadership Training. Some Troops and Life Scouts will perform like model Scouts every day of their life, others will meet the very basic
  8. wbcarley, Greetings! Regarding achieving Eagle Scout. Achievements do not need to be a struggle, but they do need to be an achievement. I think I have said it in this forum before. Some Scouts will stumble and trip across the low threshold, some with clear it as though they were running hurdles in the Olympics. Some Eagles will soar, some Eagles will just sit in their nest. They all earn Eagle, and when they are adults they will know how much effort (or lack of effort) they put into it. My kudos to those that just earn Eagle (they earned it!), and my big congr
  9. KSscoutmom, Greetings! I don't have my handbooks in front of me, but a training session is on the Scouting.org website. http://www.scouting.org/boyscouts/trainingmodules/scoutmaster%20conference%20training.aspx There are points there are re-emphasised throughout this training, and a requirement for each rank. Scout Spirit. I usually ask if Scout Spirit is just for one hour on Scouting night? I expect them to tell me it is every day. Then I ask if they would say hi to me in the mall, if I walked thru in my Scout uniform. I ask them not to memorize and repeat the Scout law
  10. Lisabob and Fellow Scouters, As others stated, Certainly concur with the cost of souvenirs, not only at Jamboree, but during their historic tours before arriving at Jamboree. (Some councils schedule a two-three week itinerary, with an East Coast patriotic sites tours) Last jamboree, they offered scoutstuff Jamboree cards. So that you can place money onto the card (used only at Jamboree) rather than giving large amounts of cash to your Scout. There are pros and cons of course. So watch scoutstuff and your Jamboree login in the next few months and make up your mind, if you want
  11. keoki12 and Fellow Scouters, Rereading the letters sent to the keoki12's family. (excerpts copied below) It appears that Regional determines that the youth may be forgiven for errors in judgment. If the letters are correct, Regional states that the youth application may and will be accepted by regional and national. But regional does not mandated that the Blue Grass Council has to be the council to accept the application. I do not have my entire literature, but some fellow forum members have previously posted on this forum (and other forums), that councils are independent corporat
  12. keoki12 and Fellow Scouters, Greetings! IMHO. Quiet often the forum only receives one side of a story. You have only presented one side of the story, and then you are asking forum members to state if the BSA is about mentoring or destroying. Sounds like entrapment. Further you express a disappointment with your state's Department of Education, which your statements seems to transcend to becoming the fault of the BSA. While I hope you son grows into a mature young man that can make ethical decisions. Possibly, the BSA is not the best place for him to develop his
  13. Fellow Scouters, Greetings! Hal, The Scout has not yet attempted a BOR for Eagle. He was "Not Advanced" to the rank of Life Scout. For not having an authorized POR, and/or not completing a Scoutmaster-assigned leadership project to help the troop. IMHO..... I don't have the Advancement Committee policies and Procedures manual if front of me currently. But I've read thru it a few times. After a spirited debate with a friend, I previous thought that only Eagle BOR could appeal a decision to their respective District/Council over the judgement of a BOR. Then my friend
  14. Fellow Jamboree Staffers, Greetings! (and a jealous grrrr too) Mrs Crew21_Adv has already been accepted and assigned to International Exhibits, for nearly a month already. Good to know that she'll be looking for the patch in the mail. I've been accepted to staff, but I am still awaiting on position assignment. I joke with her, that Mrs Crew21_Adv will have to come out to parking lot duty to say hi to me. Oh well. Hopefully my assignment (and patch) arrives soon. Scouting Forever and Venture On! Crew21 Adv
  15. Buffalo Skipper, Greetings! You are not alone. If I can explain about my troop. It is great when all the Scouts are within walking distance of the meeting location and there are no other after school programs, or sports seasons to compete with. We start on time. Program or no program. Either it will be a really good meeting, and okay meeting, or a horrible meeting, we will not know the outcome till an hour and half later. (We have cancelled the last meeting in lieu of PLC on that meeting night, so we do have a monthly plan with the youth leadership) My troop has
  16. Lexington76, Greetings! Your post doesn't really seem to have difficult questions. Just some common sense discussion topics. Heck, I would love to brag about having 60-70 youth. Here are my thoughts. Delegate yourself out of your position. Your CM and SM should be doing the same. Take this with a grain of salt, while asking your new leaders to accept important and specific positions. As "A Legend in my own Mind" (I'm joking) I, myself, certainly cannot control my Pack, Troop or Crew after I leave. I would like to see them thrive after I leave. Maybe they would do
  17. Frank17 and Fellow Scouters, You asked to different major questions.... When are they official? Concur with John in KC. When the application is accepted at council. When do other Troops consider ASMs to be functional? That could vary, from when they walk in the door to when they have complete all the recommended basic training items. My fellow ASM's come into our troop with various experiences. Some are Eagles, some have spent years in Cub Scouting with a few sons, some just signed up for the first time with their son. Our fellow ASM's within my troop are official
  18. Frank17 and Fellow Scouters, Greetings! We had this as a brief discussion during our Fall training, (What the policies are and when the uniform can be worn) and quickly looked at the Unit Money Earning Application. I am not looking at my manuals right now. But expect the Cub Leader and Venturing Leader manuals will have a similar statement to the Scoutmaster Handbook. About 10 years ago there was an infomercial on late night TV selling fishing rods which had a troop discussing how well the fishing rod worked and how many fish they caught during a weekend campout. About a
  19. John-in-KC, Oh yes. Certainly makes sense. I wasn't doubting it, just that I've never heard of it. But even if the OA history questions have been taken out of the Brotherhood walk. The OA Jeopardy game seems like it could still be a spirited competition and be a fun way to learn a little OA history. Scouting Forever and Venture On! Crew21 Adv
  20. Fellow Scouters, Greetings! MRCTroop340, Excellent Posting! Though, The short quote is still a little too restrictive. NER is Northeast Region, and addressing about staff positions. I am pleased to read about that. But, the Jamboree council contigent SM, 1,2,3 ASMs are participant positions. Ideally, WB trained is WB trained. We don't make adult Eagles re-earn their Eagle Rank after every advancement or merit badge change. Of course, maybe if we took away the Eagle Rank from adults and make them earn it all over again; the previous Boy Scout Leader Wood Badge versus t
  21. CampSalmen, Greetings! You've received some expert advice already. Not really an answer to your question. "what do you need to make sure every boy has the opportunity that I have had?" But here are my thoughts.... Sometimes a new DE may re-energize a District. From my observations of the years; If I may describe an example of what Ive seen and would expect. If you take the geography of a Council and overlay it, as if it were concentric circles like a bullseye. The more urban or metropolitan downtown towards the inner part of the circles is where it is only a city
  22. Fellow Arrowmen, Excellent. Thanks for the replies. I've gotten one copy enroute I believe. I've never heard of the Nemat concept, only just the Brotherhood walk, Brotherhood letter and verbal test, which I still understood existed. My chapter is looking at a few fun events during a one day Chapter Fellowship (and also to refresh everyones understanding of the OA), without re-creating the wheel. I will admit, it would be plagiarism, but it a downloaded or emailed copy of the OA Jeopardy game, would be better than my amateur attempt. I have played the Wood Badge (Jeo
  23. Fellow Arrowmen, I've heard the positive benefits of retaining the purpose of the OA and learning Brotherhood items thru playing OA Jeopardy. But I have not had the opportunity to see it played. I would like to present it to my Chapter Chief for brotherhood study and also for fun. I do not know if the OA Jeopardy game would belong under protected material. I've done a few searches of OA Lodges websites, to find flyers for Conclave and work weekends. As well as ceremony material, but I'm unable to find the powerpoint version of the game. Does anyone possess a powerpoint v
  24. tagguy and Fellow Scouters, Greetings! First I would view the movie for entertainment value, and first as a heartwarming story. But secondly, it may be a good opportunity to segue into topics such as G2SS and safety. (If the majority of your committee was not yet trained) Rather than making a bad example out of the movie, I would only remind them "Hey, you know we handle safety much more thorough now." and "You know, we don't climb on the back of a moving car, or ride in the back of a truck" I would hope that everyone would let it be a fun night for the audience, and may
  25. April-D, With respect to our mission statement, we all work to prepare the youth to make ethical choice throughout their lifetime. IMHO. Youth, from 1 to 21 are constantly learning habits. Both good and bad. At home, at school, at sports and at scouts. Some of them are bad habits that Scouting (with only one hour a week) may never improve upon. It appears that the boy in your Bear Den has learned to be a smart mouth. Not that an apology would be insincere. But he probably does not realize that he is being offensive, and not have a clue why you would want an apology (wh
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