InquisitiveScouter

Oh no!! I make a new one every day, as every authentic tinfoil hat wearer knows to do...the aluminum loses potency throughout the day as it wards off the toxic energy and thought control waves. I use heavy duty...but I do recycle!

Yup, CS = Kosnoff...tinfoil hat on for the morning...

DM'ed you with the story... I'm not comfortable pushing his name out publicly, as he is exonerated.

I know a man who was convicted (wrongfully) of murder, later exonerated and released, who petitioned BSA to be removed from IVF. The answer was "No." Image before ethics.

No. Many of those people would be unjustly tarred with the same brush.

No misconceptions... is says that clearly in the G2AI link above... "Religious emblems are not considered Scouting awards. Instead they are earned by members and then presented to them by their religious leaders. Each faith has its own requirements for earning their respective emblems. A list of the emblems and more information about the programs can be found at www.scouting.org/ awards/religious-awards/."

I think it gives more ammunition to the forces that think Chapter 7 is the right way to go. Dissolve the organization and start over.

It's my delusion...all mine 😛

OK, so there are actually two "awards" here. First is the "medal" based on the grade-appropriate program the Cub Scout completed. Jesus and Me - K-1 God and Me - 2-3 or God and Family - 4-6 https://store.praypub.org/ Again, someone has to purchase that medal (and/or a handsome patch). Each of those medals is $12.50 plus shipping, etc. As stated, this is most approriately done by the Scout's place of worship, but I recommend you call the parents and/or pastor, and/or mentor to coordinate and find out what's the what. Second, there is the Youth Religious Award Knot (if this is the Scout's first award), also previously mentioned. This is most appropriately presented by the unit, and (most appropriately) after the medal above is presented. A Scout may wear this knot on his uniform forevermore. Yes, even as an adult If this is the Scout's second or subsequent religious award, then the unit should purchase an appropriate "gold device" to wear on the knot. From the Guide to Awards and Insignia "Any combination of miniature devices may be worn on the same Youth Religious Award knot: Cub Scout, No. 604950; Webelos Scout, No. 932; Scout, No. 927; Venturer, No. 930; Sea Scout, No. 931." https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/33066/33066_Religious_Emblems_WEB.pdf?_gl=1*b2csj1*_ga*MjI5OTE1NDQ1LjE2MzIzNDUwNTE.*_ga_20G0JHESG4*MTYzNDA2NzIwNC4xMC4wLjE2MzQwNjcyMDQuNjA. Here is a the Cub Scout pin device, $2.99 https://www.scoutshop.org/cub-scout-device-pin-604950.html You can search any of the device numbers above on scoutshop.org to see what is needed.

And that's probably why they never hired someone from outside the organization...

As far as recognizing the award, that is most appropriately done at that Scout's place of worship. But, that is up to the Scout. Ask them how and where they want it presented.

BSA does not sell the awards...and it depends on the award. Most Christian awards are available at https://www.praypub.org/ You may have to establish an account there to purchase. Some religious organizations may order them as well. Which award is it, may I ask?? You can get the religious emblem knot at your Scout store, though... item 5007, for $1.99 https://www.scoutshop.org/youth-religious-award-knot-5007.html That depends on your unit policies for purchase of awards...

Yes, recorded...you can watch later...it's just over an hour long. https://www.andersonadvocates.com/boy-scouts-of-america-is-not-a-safe-place-for-children-today-congress-must-take-immediate-action/

"I'm fed up with people in that organization telling me what to say, where to say it, and what to believe." Ouch

"They just wore me down..." God, I know how he feels.

Anyone seeing a live feed yet for the conference?? NVM...got it

Not really...we do this, for overnighters. Wanna camp out with us? Gotta have a background check...

Done Wonder if MJ gave National a heads up...so they could prepare for the potential excrement storm?? P.S. OOO Reply from SE

Should I forward a copy to our SE?

Here's a really tinfoil hat idea: CynicalScouter = Kosnoff

Hmmm...It was MJ who tried to skewer me in an email back in 2019 when I pointed out 1) widespread confusion with and implementation of the 72-hour policy, 2) inconsistency in application of the "registered leader" policy, and 3) incoherence of a 2-deep policy that did not extend to MB Counselors. He cc'ed my SE on the return email, and my SE subsequently removed me from all District and Council positions to try to silence me. The SE said he did so under the guise of addressing my outspoken efforts to drive transparency in council finances... Of course, he retained me as one of his useful idiots as we have one of the best unit level programs in the council. Wonder if those emails will be in the mix 😜 This is like an election year "October Surprise." And I feel guilty for having a certain sense of schadenfreude.

When I think on this, I can honestly say we don't really need our local council. Everything they provide us could be done (and in most cases, actually already is being provided) through National functions (policy, materials (books and uniforms), standardized training) and local volunteers (local training courses and events). Could anyone else here live without their local council? With the technologies we have now, could they go away without a great deal of impact to Scouting? I think so....and so, BSA toggle?

So, I am curious... does anyone here think the offer is fair? (I do not...) Do you believe the LC's can put up more than they have? (I believe they are short of what they could "comfortably" do, and that they should be giving an "uncomfortable" amount.) Understand this would be nothing but your opinion, because the spectrum of LC finances is wide...

You'd have to be careful with this... slander/libel territory

@SSScout, The PA requirement (for those that delved into the link) is actually three background checks: 1) A PA State Police Criminal Record Check, 2) A PA Department of Human Services Child Abuse History Check, and EITHER 3A) An FBI Background Check with Fingerprint Record OR 3B) IF you have been a PA resident for 10 years, a sworn affidavit of not having been convicted of a whole list of child abuse related crimes. There is no cost to volunteers for these checks, except in the case of 3A, the FBI Fingerprint check. My question is, if PA requires the volunteer to obtain these clearances, do the councils in PA do any further background checks? Post Script... Did a news search...of course a law is really only good if it is followed and enforced: https://www.witf.org/2020/01/16/groups-are-skirting-pa-law-intended-to-protect-children-from-abuse-in-wake-of-penn-state-scandal/