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Other than loss of membership and loss of donations, is there a reason why they will run out of money?

They didn't ask me, but I wished they would have gone back to the short lived "Scout BSA" strip from the '70s. Change Scout to Scouts, but keep it small and tidy.

In Northeast Wisconsin, we need a heavy coat a lot. I wouldn't mind a Filson, but the price holds me back. They are made in Seattle, which is neat. They are guaranteed: We guarantee every item made by Filson. No more, no less. We believe in our products and stand by the materials, quality, and workmanship for the lifetime of the product. The product lifetime specifically refers to the time at which, through normal use, the product can no longer function in its intended purpose.

This Filson one? I have been thinking of getting a wool coat and sewing the BSA universal jacket emblem on it. The red wool jack shirts don't have hand pockets, so they are pretty non-functional to me. Filson - Mackinaw Wool Cruiser (bemidjiwoolenmills.com)

Do you really think this is moving fast enough to impact camp this summer? I don't think so, but what do I know?

This conversation reminded me of an old staffer at my camp. He was a generation before me. His personal policy was he was Mr. Smith to those under 18 and Joe to those over. There was an exception, if you were an Eagle Scout under 18, he then said you could call him Joe.

Mr. Latin Scot the Younger: I had a dermatologist whose son followed in his father's footsteps and joined the practice. They were both Dr. Smith in person, but at home we always made distinction between "Dr. Smith the Younger" and "Dr. Smith the Elder".

I agree. I don't like Mr. or Mrs. First Name.

You summed it up quite nicely. At times, I use the Mrs./Mrs./Ms. so much, I even use it during committee meetings, but no one seems to mind. It is hard to "code switch" at times.

Since council camps (including, now camporees etc.) are audited and "permitted" by trained administrators, I assume they assume it is more rigorous in its execution. Sorry for the run on sentence. Often times, it seems as though units look the other way at certain safety things beyond YPT.

I know it has diamonds showing what changed, but it didn't seem to change much, did it? Does anyone have a tldr version? I glanced over it and it seemed the same.

Markup isn't the question, margin is. It doesn't matter if they have 300% markup if they are still losing money on the item.

It is funny, we often hear the most complaints about the pay at the top, and then a snicker of the pay at the bottom. We will have a broken professional core as long we pay entry level DEs such a tiny wage for someone with a 4 year degree.

It is interesting that some of these items, even if they seemed expensive, must not have been "self sustaining" meaning that they were selling these at a loss.

It will be great if they provide one large pdf guide. The Kindle edition was the same cost, and based on each year (not auto updated).

That is not at all what they said. No one is talking about withholding info, it just isn't a responsibility of the leader to cover each and ever award.

I agree. In all of my reading of handbooks, guides, and training, making scouts aware of all opportunities is not one of Scoutmaster responsibilities. There are so many different "areas" a Scout could get involved in, it isn't up to the SM to make all aware.

There are a number of Scouters who give me the stick eye with I reference something like this on my phone. With all of this moving electronically, we need to change to culture to not be so turned off by phones, tablets, laptops at meetings/campouts/outings. Also, I have the 2019 and 2020 Kindle editions of the requirements. 2021 is not out. The BSA is "committed" to moving these to electronic resources. They keep using that word. I don't think it means what they think it means.

We did ours much later than normal last year. I assume we will do the same. By doing it late, we were able to have it outside (we are in Wisconsin). We got premade subs from Subway. We had it at a place that had a bunch of spread out picnic tables for families and then moved to the fire bowl area. Families brought their own chairs so they could distance. We had very good mask compliance. We did the cross over at that time, but the Scouts had actually been with the troop for a month or 2.

That makes more sense. It seems that up until 1972 the commissioner color was blue instead of red.

Well, you could make a bolo or neckerchief slide out of the plaque. I like that they added the medal in your council. I read somewhere originally that it was connected to Cub Scouts and that is why the background is blue. It was then expanded to all district volunteers. That supposed history doesn't make much sense as the adult uniform for Cubs wasn't blue AFAIK.

Well, the Order of the Arrow Endowment Fund which was started at the end of 1978. The claim is that everything was basically co-mingled with no records of deposits and withdrawals.

I wish it was more of an "LL Bean" wool shirt and pants. Then it would look nice and do pretty well at camp. 😞 But as you point out, they are wool as in fine wool suit.

I assume you are talking about the poly wool pants? Boy Scout Men's Polyester Pants | Boy Scouts of America (scoutshop.org)

When I felt this, when I saw this... I knew why adults volunteered so many years. To see, from a distance, a patrol "get the job done" or to see them work out there differences or plan something... it was amazing. I feel like I have to use clichés, but this is the magic. No adults, just the Scouts, doing Scouting. Again, we are there for safety and to avoid large monetary loss. Other than that, it is theirs.