Eagle94-A1

Every troop does things differently. In my troop, if a 5th grader is working on Scout and has the 5th grade Cyberchip from Cub Scouts, they already earned the cyberchip and thus do not have to re-earn it. They won't need to do it again until working on Star.

Mixed emotions on this. I've read the studies and experienced it growing up in both Scouting and schools: boys and girls learn better in single gender environments. I also know that girls do mature faster, and will see them taking over in leadership roles. That is already happening in Venturing and Sea Scouts. But my biggest concern is the BSA changing the program majorly to accommodate girls. This quote on one of the slides posted on facebook from the meeting greatly concerns me: " Do current programs meet the character and leaderships needs of older girls?" I'm sorry, but if gir

It would open eyes. When I worked for national supply, I was part of a pilot program operating a store at a camp. I was hired because I had camp experience. Long story short, everything I wrote for the proposed Standard Operating Procedures manual was questioned repeatedly by my boss: from hours of operation to staffing to supplies to design lay out. Even when items were approved and finalized in the proposal, when executed they were still questioned. Boss had 0 experience working at a summer camp. Didn't have a clue. Two summers went by and there was constant questioning. Then the bos

Praying.

Don't know the full situation. So I do not know if the SM has reasons or not. What I do know is that because BORs need 3-5 committee members, they need advance notice. I know in some troop's I've been in, you needed to ask for a BOR 1-2 weeks in advance so they could get enough people. In rare instances, specifically EBORs, it could take up 6 weeks between the request and the actual EBOR! Other troops have the BORs scheduled for a specific meeting night each month. That's how my sons' troop is. Since it is the Scout's advancement and therefore the Scout's repsonibility, he needs t

First time I've heard of these websites. I would add they need a better job of advertising them.

David, While we have our differences of opinion, we both have the best interests of the youth we serve. I'm sad to hear that you are stepping down and away from Scouting. But can understand why you may need to step down. Just do me a big favor if you don't mind? If one of your Scouts asks you to attend something like a Court of Honor, especially their Eagle COH, please do so.

My understanding of the LDS program from talking to LDS Scouters and reading their commentary on this announcement is that A) their 11 year old program is a set, repetitive program that is designed to get Scouts to First Class in a year, and is very adult leader oriented to the point that it seems like it is still Cub Scouts or "Webelos 3" and B) there is incredible pressure from LDS leaders on the Scouts to get Eagle before 14. I know I was pressured to get Eagle before getting into HS by my uncle. Thankfully not as much as my cousin was. Also I had a SM who realized Scouting needed to b

Forgot all about the flush toilets and showers.

Can't answer the power tools part of your question, but can answer the caving one. When Leadership Corps became venture crews in 1989, then venture patrols in 1998, a series of pin recognition was created for HA type activities that they could earn. BSA based the program on the Varsity program. The Varsity letter became the Varsity/Venture letter, and the venture pins were created.. From 1989 to sometime after 1996, the pins were restricted both to purchase and to specific program. So all the sports related pins were Varsity pins and restricted to Varsity Scouts being able to earn them and

There are differences. I do not know the official reason why summer camp only counts once for various requirements. I can give you my thoughts though. 1) Monthly camping with your patrol is the heart and soul of Scouting. That is where you learn, refine, master, and teach those basic outdoor skills. "OUTING is three-fourths of ScOUTING." William "Green Bar Bill" Hillcourt 2)The modern summer camp is not your typical camp out. You are sleeping in tents that are already pitched for you. Patrols do not need to come up with duty rosters and menus, nor do cooking and other patrol specific a

Does anyone in your pack have B.A.L.O.O. Training? That person should be able to answer all of your questions. Also I would take either Outdoor Webelos Leader Training (or whatever it is called nowadays) and/or Introduction to Outdoor Leader Skills, the Boy Scout leader outdoor training course. Both can help you. My answers are in red More Later

Stosh, Unfortunately I made the mistake of not only going to a private college (the partial scholarship to it helped make that decision), but going to grad school twice, once for a history degree that there is an overabundance in the market of, and then a library degree. I will be finished with my student loan debt when my kids are out of college. I wish I would be debt free at 50. On a different note since I'm the one responsible for helping people go back to school at my job, I know a lot more now than my mom ever did about the college process, transfer credit, financial aid etc. I

This is not a troop. Shop around. Even if you have to drive. While my mom didn't have to drive 40 miles RT, she did have a drive to take me to Scouts. Thankfully there was a K Mart down the street, and she'd go shopping after dropping me off. One of our ASMs drives 60 miles RT so his son can be with my troop. That doesn include another 10-20 miles for him to get home.

OH I WISH!

Yes and no. I love too love the 3 year program. But I do not like that the LDS packs cannot camp. I also do not like the fact that they separate the Boy Scout youth into 3 different programs

I beleive the dopcument, but note the discrepecy. Also lament the fact that today's legalistic and sue happy society has forced the BSA to change its programs. It was not too long ago that Patrols could camp without adults on their own.

Back. The 12 and 13 year olds are Boy Scouts, they are on their own. There are no older Scouts who model the patrol method, and mentor the young leaders. The successful non-LDS troops I've been in and seen would usually have 14-17 year old Boy Scouts in the old "Leadership Corps" positions, i.e. QM, Librarian, Instructor, etc, and a SPL who had experience as a a PL. In one troop I was with,one SPL had over 2 years straight as a PL! His patrol kept reelecting him. With the LDS program, they have 2 years only, and the focus of Boy Scouts as I am told and read comments is to get them Eagle be

My thoughts, and I will be rambling as I always do. We all know that LDS units are run differently, i.e. old 3 year Cub Scout program, 11 year old Boy Scouts in their own program, 14 becoming Varsity and focusing on basketball, 16 becoming a Venturer. From reading the comments on some of the links provided, as well as my own observations of and discussions with LDS Scouters, LDS units have major problems because of Scouter turn over. Let's face it, it takes more than 1, 2, or 3 years to be an effective Scouter. And from what I've seen the Scouters are not in that position even a year a tim

My thoughts. Since when is an Eagle Project considered a troop activity requiring adult present? According to the Guide to Safe Scouting " There are instances, such as patrol activities, when the presence of adult leaders is not required and adult leadership may be limited to patrol leadership training and guidance. With proper training, guidance, and approval by troop leaders, the patrol can conduct day hikes and service projects. page 1 ( page 10 of pdf found here http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/34416.pdf) I have seen projects where no adults were involved in the actual service

1) WELCOME TO DA FORUMS! 2) I thought NLYT no longer uses the terms SM, SPL, etc since the program,includes not only Boy Scouts, but also Sea Scouts and Venturers? 3) Can Explorers now do NYLT?

Only and ASM here. In my troop, we pawn our kids onto other adults. I know my oldest is glad about that b/c I tend to be harder and expect more out of him than others. Now when he is home, I will remind him of things he needs to do occasionally, i.e "Do you think ( insert names of missing patrol members) need to know what is going on since they missed the meeting?". And he will ask me for advice

While most of the adults are gone, the SM isn't. Sadly his son is not interested in earning Eagle and is dragging his feet on the matter. Dad will not quit as SM until son gets Eagle.

Yep I can believe it. My problem was that the Crossed Over parents/Cub Leaders took over the troop, and began running the troop like Cub Scouts. As their commissioner, I tired to work with them and help them get back on course their previous SM set for the unit; SCOUT LED! Long story short, I was told I don't know what I'm talking about and that Scouting needs to change with the times. If the troop can survive 1-2 more years, I see turn around. That group of parents are done with Scouts since most of their sons have Eagle and left. Only 1 or 2 remain. After 3 years of no new Scouts, they

It could be worse. My council never kept track of training records. It was just never put into the system until about 12 years ago, when National pushed it. Long story short, 99.99999% of the district was untrained. That included myself, training chairman, and our district commissioner who served on PTC staff. We did a training survey, verified who did what, and turned in the report to the council to fix. Now I believe the district training chairman can update those records.