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Well, ISA's are a slippery slope. If my Scout raises money specifically for summer camp and does not go, I expect he will be able to use that (until used up) to defer his other costs.

I think you said it, it is his opinion as to how he reads the CO agreement. But the quote from the document clearly shows that statement to be false. Not sure it needs much explaining beyond, "Opps, I misread that. Nevermind."

Oh I agree. The unit *is* "owned" by the CO, but the assets of the unit were raised for the sole purpose of Scouting. So I read these documents to say, "Sure, Mr. CO, you own the unit. But the monies and assets of the unit MUST be applied to Scouting, nothing else." So if the unit goes under, the council will work with the CO to either a) build a new unit, or b) transfer those funds/assets to be used for the purposes of Scouting. That's my take anyway.

It is right there in black and white (see post above). I am not sure how anyone can construe the sentence "Ensure appropriate facilities for the unit for its regular meetings to facilitate the aims of the Chartered Organization and Scouting" as meaning the CO does not need to provide a place for you to meet. It clearly does and it is part of the CO agreement. The CO has to make sure you have a place to meet. That means they either give you the facility or help you find one, but the onus is clearly on THEM. And this is an annual agreement, meaning that EVERY YEAR they need to make sure you have

The doc I was referring to his here. Section XI does a decent job of outlining how any funds raised by Scouts, for Scouts, should be administered: Clause 1 (b) Purpose. All money raised by or received for the benefit of a unit or local council and all property acquired by a unit or local council shall be deemed to be received or acquired solely for the benefit of Scouting as interpreted and promoted by the Boy Scouts of America. Clause 2 (b) Unit Obligations. In the event of the dissolution of a unit or the revocation or lapse of its charter, the unit committee shall apply unit fun

Yes, it is in the Annual Charter Agreement: "Ensure appropriate facilities for the unit for its regular meetings to facilitate the aims of the Chartered Organization and Scouting."

LOL...Online simply cannot convey emotions, can it? You've got the right attitude, just keep the interest up and try to avoid becoming overwhelmed. My Scout completed his Eagle project, has 1 (very easy) requirement left to do in each of 3 three MBs. Has not completed his write up yet and turns 18 in 6 months. Inside I am chewing my nails. On the outside it's his to lose. Having walked away from Eagle at 16 (SMC done, just needed BOR) I know what it means to not get it. Has haunted me since but made me a better Scout. If my son ends up doing that he just may end up learning a more imp

The advice I recently got from the district advancement chair was to go by grade, disregard the nomenclature. I'd check with your district person to see what they advise.

ROFL. Well, unless your Scout turns 18 in the next six months you may want to chill too. I see it all too often when parents take too much of an interest in what how fast a Scout gets his work done. You asked for input and you are getting it, though you may not like the answer. @@Stosh is right, we applaud your vigor and interest...but it seems from your posts that you might be worrying too much. If he's got more than a year to finish Eagle then RELAX!! He will get it done. Heck, we have an autistic Scout who turns 18 in May. His project is next week and he's still got MBs to close ou

We were able to find a home for a pack that lost it's CO after the 2013 membership policy change. We met with our CO and asked if they'd be willing to take on a pack. Two meetings and the deal was done. Now the districts had an issue because the unit moved from one to the other. The losing district wanted the pack to stay BUT didn't have a new CO lined up and the clock was ticking (less than a month) until the CO booted the pack out. Oh, and it was August so the Cub year was just starting too. In the end the losing district ate the loss and the pack moved within two weeks. Done.

@@zuzy, my son is in a similar situation. My advice is to sit back and let him handle EVERYTHING! You can poke and prod all you like but that rarely gets a kid to move on anything. Even *if* it works you will never know if his accomplishment was his or yours. You have got to be prepared to let him fail (at doing his Eagle work) and at SPL. He will learn through his failures just like in school. I would discretely let the SM know his issues. Chances are the SM might have observed something already. Letting him know your son's learning style (visual, written, audio) will help the SM tailor h

Give your new lodge your old lodge's name/location. You should be on record. If not there are other ways they can verify. Once you are up to date they will let you know when you are eligible to BH as an adult.

I believe the actual answer is they want you to run it once a year, that is if you want to check off TLT as part of your JTE. That's the only place I see it but I could have missed it elsewhere.

I wouldn't give you a cup of dirt for many parent's management skills.

Yes, but the disposition of the funds and gear are covered in the BSA Rules and Regulations. It leaves that decision to the council, not the CO. The CO can be the holder of the assets but they are for the purpose of Scouting.

Take a kid that has no clue how to manage anything. How can he lead? How does he motivate his patrol? How does he accomplish tasks. How does he obtain his objectives? I see management as the tools we use to CREATE leadership. Time management. People management. Conflict resolution. These are all management tools that are used by leaders to accomplish a task or activity. Leadership is what one demonstrates during the process of managing a task. That's my take.

See the other thread about the BSA rules and regulations. Cannot find anything that says the gear is the property of the CO.

Never. Better to forget it and use something useful.

Disagree. You don't build leadership without showing the Scout how to lead well. To do that you need to define his tasks, set objectives he can meet, provide a method for measuring those objectives and allow the Scout to self-evaluate and correct. You have requirements in the POR that highlight what the role entails. Showing a Scout how to match quantifiable objectives to his POR allows the Scout to gauge when he's meeting his POR. These are not merely a measurement of performance, but a real-time guide as to HOW he's doing. If a Scout is missing his own self-made objective then he knows h

Pre-Reads: PL Handbook. TLT document. Job descriptions. Pre-Work: Each Scout does leadership objectives for his POR. Must be quantifiable. Instructors and SPL lead the training. SM guides and leads a few sections. Based on old JLT training program.

Testosterone and bad judgement can flip ANYTHING!!!

Yup! And how well-trained are these adult leaders? If I showed up with my guys and saw any firearms we'd be back in the cars and headed home ASAP. Sounds like the District Executive needs to pay this unit a visit.

I love camping. I love being outdoors. But if I were 15 and had the option to get my service hours close to home, play some PS4 on Friday night when I was done, take my girlfriend out Saturday night and still have time for some climbing on Sunday, I think I'd take that. The option is clearing brush 2.5 hours from home, in a sub-par council camp with lousy latrines and a total lack of camaraderie and atmosphere.

Back then? Sure! Now? Not likely.

Seabase is tough because it is not like the Philmont lottery where you simply say "We're interested" and hope to get picked. We found this out the hard way one year and got nothing. I called Seabase to find out what we did wrong and got a lovely lady who explained it to me like this: Pick several treks. Pick several dates. MANY dates. This is how the lottery works (as explained by this lady): Seabase starts in June. The lottery runs all June dates and all June treks. If ONLY selected June dates for your trek you are out of the lottery. If you selected OTHER DATES (like in July and August)