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  1. Does it even matter if the board was done and he was awarded the rank? We probably all know Eagles that are borderline at best, and some we probably would not personally have passed with the knowledge of them we have. But it is apparently a done deal. Better to just take a deep breath and try to make others scouts who have doubts understand that each person needs to do what is right within themselves; and begrudging someone something is not a good way to be, even if you have good reason. Just my opinion of course.
  2. See below for recently posted link. http://scoutingmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/2011rtn.pdf
  3. _____________________ FOR COUNCIL SERVICE CENTER USE ONLY Report received Certificates issued Mailed or issued to Date mailed Record Posted 1. Advancement procedures: Troops/Teams: All Boy Scouts or Varsity Scouts ready for advancement must appear before a board of review composed of at least three members. The advancement report for each board of review must be signed by at least three members of the board, including its chairman. This is directly from the advancement report on-line. "The advancement report for each board of review must be signed by at least th
  4. While this is likely discussed here and there in some earlier posts, it is now becoming a bit more of a concern for me. I am hearing more and more talk about National soon requiring ALL reports to be done electronically, and the discontinuation of the paper forms all together. While I really find overall the advancement on-line a good process, it so far does not deal with the need for signatures on rank advancements. Currently, in order to not have any unnecessary delay in the filing, we use PAPER for rank advancements so the board members can "IMMEDIATELY" sign after the review is comp
  5. Obviously, being an Eagle is not necessarily a guarantee of stability, intelligence, and common sense. Just look at Perry.
  6. Basement: "So I am guessing your a professional?????? " Considered it briefly in 1971; but found out what they really did, and how they had no personal life due to their ridiculous schedules. In my 35th year as SM of a troop; was an ASM in Germany in the mid 60's, RT commissioner staff, unit commissioner, member at large, jamboree 1st ASM in 1985 and staff in 2010, as well as going as junior leader in 1960. Woodbadge beaded in old course, but staffed first "new" course as TG, done numerous training courses on staff and been to training at PTC 5 times, as well as 2 treks there with
  7. Once more we get to definitions of bullying and emotional abuse. What appears to be considered bullying today was not even close when I was a scout. What is considered emotional abuse is often nothing more than telling the truth about something and confronting an individual. To often today we seem to think that we are not supposed to correct or fail a scout because it might "hurt their feelings". Am not saying that is the case here, because we simply DO NOT really know. Basement: I understand your distaste in general for everything beyond your own unit pretty much; but you really nee
  8. While there surely should be camperships made available, the pool is a critical element in most camps. It may have been necessary to do the update due to health and safety issues if it is old. Much of the pool system is not visible to most, but they can become very inefficient and costly as they get old, especially if they break underground. Also, sometimes there are donors that specify money for a particular item. Any number of reasons. However, I am not in your council, so do not see what you apparently see. I do know that a spread sheet for camp costs, including salaries for sta
  9. Yes! Should an effort be made to support smaller camps might be the better question for me. Many smaller camps have great facilities, or once were really viable. But, for many reasons, mostly population shifts and financial support mechanisms, struggle to survive against the mega camps in the general area. Personally, I feel National really needs to find a way to assure these smaller camps can survive, as they serve an important role, even if it is to a smaller group of users. Our own camp has been rediscovered by a lot of L.A. area troops; we are closer, and have a decent program. Y
  10. As annoying as things sometimes get in our council and district, I guess, overall, we are better off than I realized, though we have had our "real" nightmares. Some of the stories on here are amazing to me, and I cannot help but wonder why it is allowed to continue over time. Currently, I pretty much just feel badly for the lower execs, as they are understaffed in the council by one or two, and have been for a number of years. Ours tries very hard to work with his volunteers, and even the ASE eventually works with us when he "finally" gets to it. Of course he not only does the job for
  11. Same article made it to our local paper. But, they still have not found room to post my troop's 90th anniversary info. Told them the reporter assigned to interview should know I refuse to talk about political issues in the interview. Have not heard a word since?
  12. "Topping the lists of Rhodes Scholarships are the numbers of scouts thereon. This year, revived after a ten year lapse, the list of 32 scholars includes 23 who have been Boy Scouts, or 67% of the total. In fifteen years (1926-39 and 1949), Scouts have captured an average of 66% of the scholarships. Best year was 1927, when 24 of 32 were Scouts, 75% of the total." Wonder how more current candidates might turn out. Would be interesting to know in comparison. Of course, way back then, there were no NESA scholarships or related types, and only a very few of any kind specifically for Scou
  13. Just for information, in case there is someone on these boards from our troop's past, Troop 102 of Ventura, Ca. is having its 90th anniversary gathering on February 12th. See Troop 102, Ventura on Facebook for details.
  14. Okay, now that I have had an opportunity to peruse the book, it is time to comment. While certainly a broad coverage of the huge variation of material, books, and so on, it does not seem to have had a lot of serious thought put into it regarding photos and so on. I find it difficult to understand why there is NO mention of SCOUTING MAGAZINE for instance. A number of pages are dedicated to gum cards and related items, but barely anything to the Service Library with their hugely colorful and art deco like covers. They mention EBL, yet do not show any of the actual covers or jackets; there we
  15. In regard to Scout Stuff, the book just out. Got it with an Amazon gift cert, and went through it a bit. There may be a photo of Green Bar Bill in the section on Woodbadge at Schiff. They have a photo of the first course, and I believe the scouter leaning over the fire is Bill. But, not certain. Maybe another of you with the book can take a look.
  16. If at all possible, we get the boys to strike tents and lay out to dry while breakfast prep is going on. Of course, it is always a challenge to get them to do it, especially if you are trying to leave it in the junior leaders' hands. With the common use of domes, or similar tents, you can empty them and just turn them upside down without taking the poles out. This works pretty well if you have sun. And, leaving too early really defeats the intent of the weekend anyway. We usually plan on afternoon arrival home, time dependent on how far we are out.
  17. Engineer; over time the cost per participant decreases, finally reaching a pretty much break even, though maintenance costs would extend it. How long does it take a major tourist park to recoup their costs? This is a good thing, especially with our continuing struggles with PC issues. But it also gives east coast people another great high adventure outlet, as well as re-institutes a training location in that part of the country.
  18. Okay, so I DID sign up, just not using my normal id. Again, I cannot find anything remotely like the $5.99. It really is not that important; but at times, it seems posters just seem to want to find anything possible to gripe about in regard to National. As pointed out by others, it is $12 a year through the troop. Cover price is $3.95, and yearly outside subscription is $24. The subscription shown on this site is $23.99, a savings of one cent from the $24. Again, maybe I simply cannot read, or see what is being referred to. The only way I got $5.99 was to divide the price I found by
  19. Not sure what you are talking about. I looked at the link, and it is listed for $23.99, a supposed savings of $12.01 off a year's subscription. Am I missing something?
  20. Rolling on a barrel was one of the early drowning recommendations.
  21. Yes, I add my thanks to Terry too. Have watched a number of boards come and go, and this one works pretty well for the most part. And have gotten some good info on occasion, and a lot of entertainment.
  22. Eagle92; I understand the current requirement, though my understanding is that any council SE can, if he chooses waive a particular element in special circumstances. But, my point is that for adults with families and limited vacation have family priorities which may take their longer term time and making it hard for them to work in the resident camp. Meanwhile, they spend almost every month out for one to three nights, do the training, teach skills for camping and hiking, and so on, but they are not allowed to be nominated unless they are willing to choose the troop over their family.
  23. If an adult is active in supporting the outdoor program in his own unit, then he certainly deserves to be considered once he has met the requirements. The adults with whom I have occasional issue are ones that somehow get nominated from outside the unit, and who basically do nothing to truly encourage the camping of units. Fortunately, there are fewer now a days it seems in our lodge, though still some. Still wish National would consider alternate requirements for unit level scouters who have spent years doing the 2 and 3 day campouts, but use their limited vacation days for family, so neve
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