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  1. At first, I would have definantly said that the MBC was adding to the requirements. But after reading a few comments, I started looking at it from a different angle. So here's my conclusion - which is the same as most everybody elses - but in my own words 1) As aMBC myself, I can choose who I want to work with. I may decide that I will only work with scouts who are working on Eagle rank. Maybe I will only work with those who are starting at Star. My choice. I can say that you have to be Eagle candidate or Star candidate to have
  2. So not only does stuff not add up, AND dad says it's a misunderstanding, but then the check discrepancy from the store too? Uh-uh..dosn't look to good for dad. So, what's up with the unit number? Was it 3524 in some sort of fancy Star Wars lettering?
  3. WEll yeah, I'm sure everybody thinks the states should stay out of marrage licenses and such. Aside from the consequenses of brothers and sisters having kids, I can't really see states wanting to be invovled other than two reasons: 1) $$$$$ 2) Control by a majority wanting to impose their "moral" views. And back to the brother and sister offspring: well, lack of marrage isn't stoping them from procreating no more than saying bankrobbery is illegal stops banks from getting robbed. So, the states get to collect a tax for applying for a marrage license. Then of course, it
  4. By the way: NO MORE JOKES! All jokes at some point, require a person, a group ( wether based on race, nationality, religion, work, ethics, party affiliation, education, hobbies, gender, etc...) to be the brunt of the joke. That is disrespectful and insensitive to that person, group, etc... That is derrogative and demeaning to that person, faith, group, etc... and will no longer be tolerated. Don't even smile anymore as somebody may - in their perception - think you are thinking of a joke that could be embarassing, humiliating, derogitory, insulting or offensive in any oth
  5. " It's a good thing I don't care about your perception." And isn't that one of the bigger problems here? "If I decide something is "X":, then it is "X" no matter what!" You are making your own opinion an exact definition of "X" But what about all the people who ( on both sides of a parnk) do not consider it hazing? If the outnuber you, are they all wrong because your opinion is different? I am not saying there is no such thing as hazing. Matter of fact, I do not believe I ever gave a specific example of where what you call hazing should be called a prank.
  6. Yeah, I have to say again, I'm not gay, not do I plan on marrying a gay person. BUT......if I was gay and wanted to get married, I would simply say this: I am not getting married in the snese that others use the owrd or take it to mean, but rather, I would be getting married in the way I take it to mean. I'd be using my definition. And this is the core of my beliefs: My beliefs are no more or no less valuable than anybody elses beliefs. My beliefs do not get to override or trump anybody elses beliefs in the world and the government owes it to me and every other citizen to make sure
  7. Okay, I NEVER saw where SP said the CC was going to be replaced..especially by SP. What I did see was SP stating that the CC needed some prodding because - frankly, the CC was just sitting on his/her butt and doing nothing. The CM holds a meeting and it goes great, so we realize that it's not the entire comittee or leadership that doesn't care, just that they hace noty had comittee meetings that the CC is usually in charge of holding and presiding over. So SP asks, Is it time for " Plan B ", and if so, what should " Plan B " be. Then it is mentioned by another poster that t
  8. "I suppose you only have to call them forward, get a good laugh while they stutter, stammer and wet their pants, then everyone goes home. " WEll, it was already said above, only the scouts perspective matters. And the scout may very well think that the only reason we got together was to humiliate him. It was said above that our real reason or intent didn't matter. So , even though the reason we call him up actually has nothing to do with what the scout thought...only his perception matters. You do know at that age, youth do forget that everything is not about them or how they
  9. Saw a very interesting comment of facebok. " Claiming that someone else's marrage is against your religion is like being angry at somebody else for eating a doughnut because you are on a diet" And you know what? It's true! So what if what somebody else's idea of marrage is not the same as yours? Who gives a damn! They do not owe you anything. I do not owe youy anything. You do not owe me anything. It's just like taking a poll in here about what "real scouting" is. No matter how hardcore or better you think your idea of what real scouting is, somebody else wil
  10. So basically what we are saying here is this: Anything that could possible cause somebody to be embarrassed is going to be considered hazing or bullying? Well, somebody better call National and send out the notices that camp swim checks are no longer okay, Matter of fact, no swim checks anywhere are okay any more. Why? Because it is embarassing and even mortifying for a scout to fail one or be designated a beginner or non swimmer. You know how embarassing that is? All your scouting buddies get designated swimmer while you get to splash around in anke deep water. Might as well put on
  11. From a strictly buisness point of view, do you know how much money the scoutshop could make selling a new woman's uniform shirt with drop down pockets to facilitate breastfeeding? You could breast feed you cub scout whiole still showing your pride in BSA and wearing the Official uniform!
  12. I am not about to say that I am even close to being the perfect boy scout parent. I'm far from it, but at the parent orientation meeting after the AoL and Crossover ceremonies were over was quite the eye opener for some. Me? I knew what Boy scoutin g was supposed to be. When the CC started talking about boys advancing on their own, at thei own pace, about boys voting and making the decision and the oppertunity to camp at least once a month, sometimes twice..and how the scout made their own menues, cooked their own food, cleaned up their own mess, etc... - you know - stuff boy scouts do
  13. I see DLChris71 at round tables and at a camporee/ IOLS training session. Keep meaning to start up a converaation, but we( scouters in my district) are known for getting sidetracked and having so much fun at everything we do, so we end up running over time. By the time I look up, at least half the crowd has left, and you are trying to leave because the other half will keep you there another hour if you let them.
  14. So my troops does immediate recognition. You earn rank tonight, you will get your patch at the next meeting. At the end of the meeting when we circle up for announcements and such. Right before the SM minute. You don't get your card until the next quarterly CoH. You will also get how ever many MB's you worked on in that quarter . Scouts planned and ran the CoH. Turned out great. The only thing I did not like was all the clapping. I am not sure if I ever clapped that much at any ceremony ever before in my life. My hands were honestly red and slightly sore.
  15. Pranks can and do go too far sometimes. Hate when it happens, but the idea of lumping all pranks as hazing is just stupid. There are tons of pranks that require one or more people to be the victem. Does not make it hazing. I guess I must be the only one who remembers as a kid , that we used to pick on each other, have contests where we out "Yo mama" each other and we'd just generally pick on each other. And even as the victem, I'd have a great laugh and have just as much funb as those who were pranking me. Thing is, you knew that they accepted you as one of the group.
  16. You will not find a very decisive or definant answer on religious emblems with BSA. At least not the answer you are looking for. The religious emblem is only that: an emblem that BSA lets you wear on your uniform in recognition of an award earned outside of scouting. And it is just that: an outside award. BSA does not have a religious award itself, but does allow scouts to wear a knot or ribbon/medal thingy to show they have earned one in their religion. So, what you can do is gather info and requirements from each of the religions in your area ( or ones likely to b
  17. This years group crossed over in March. Last years crossed over in early April. We have had some cross over in May and some in February. Although they usually cross over together - they were a den afterall.... Some times we have 2 or 3 cross over one month, and a month or two later, the rest cross over. But as it is, we do not have a set "crossover by" date. It happens when it happens which is when the boys actually earn their AoL.
  18. The original (KnoxDad) OP. Pretty sure he isn't around anymore, but still felt the need to post my thoughts! I agree that Fishman is doing a great thing and has a great attitude about it all.
  19. "Now all of that might have gone in one ear and out the other but I did explain to them what scouting was about and left the final choice to them." LOL! Spoken like a true parent! High five! Okay. I may have a totally different view on what the original poster is asking: AS a parent, I want my son to grow up as a strong person, who is smart enough to see and understand life. I want him to be his owm man though. This includes his ability and right to make his own decisions and choices. Maybe he becomes a democrat or a republican. Maybe he ends up being ind
  20. Chris, Nah, I didn't actually go and look, I looked online. Yeah, that can be misleading as I know that two different stores of the same chain that happen to be in different areas can and will carry different products that tie in with their area..Wal-Mart included. So online may not have a true repesentation of what an individual store has in stock. So, while In do not mind paying for a better product ( get what you pay for) I am also one of those people who will take Thrifty and push it to the limit. I won't buy a $4 bowl when a $2 one will do exactly what I need it
  21. My pack has a small trailer. It is 3 1/2 wide by 5 1/2 feet long ( not including tongue). It needs to be 6 wide by 12 long. It's a pack, we carry alot of stuff, alot of food, tables, plates, cups, utensils, etc....All the food that everybody is gonna eat. My troop has a small trailer. It is 4 wide by 6 long ( not including tongue). It carrys all the patrol boxes, plus the adult patrol ( for lack of a better name) boxes too. Each patrol has a set of cooking pots, frying pans, and a Coleman style propane camp stove . THis trialer is used for camporees, summer camps or
  22. Well, I wouldn't buy a backpack off the internet. Not even from a reputible company. I want to try it for fit. I can wear "X" brand shirt in size L, but if I buy "Y" brand, I am a XL. If I buy a "Z" brand, I might be a XXL. SO I will make sure it fits and rides right. I kinda like the frying pan mess kits even though we usually have a coleman stove or DO . I like the ide that - if we ever do a flat out hiking campout and only bring what we carry - that I'm not gonna carry or rely on somebody else to carry trhe stove and the adult patrol's cooking gear. I won't have to run out then
  23. I have to admit, I was not expecting to see that the scoutshop had better prices and better product selection than Wal-Mart, Dick's Sporting Goods and a local outdoor fishing/camping/hunting outfitter. SO, Wal-Mart has great prices, but not the right product. Dick's kinda sorta had some of the products, but the prices on what they had were rediculous. The local outfitter was more set up for a redneck camping weekend. I spent my first weekend camping as a straight up ASM , and not in a CM role. After nagging my son about making sure he didn't forget his mess kit, I ended up f
  24. Parent volunteer, general committee, ADL, DL , CM , CubScout District comittee, Council Cub Scout Camp promotions for OUR district. Soon to be ACM as I step down after 2 years as CM to let the next person with a fresh point of view and new ideas take it.
  25. Chris, My son hated those BB guns at McNeill. They were Red Ryder's and Bucks. Spring air with emphasis on spring. But they are old and not in the best shape. They have been lacking ALOT of maintainance too. The triggers are just stiff enough that you pretty much have to yank them just enough that it throws your aim off. The mats are a bit worn out too. Funny thing is, my son might hit the target a few times at camp, but we would get home and get out the .22 rifle and shoot targets that were 80 feet away, and he'd get a nice cluster on the target. I have no doubt
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