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Update: Community Stewardship of Stonehaven (NY) Some thoughtful considerations in this editorial, including Allow the Great Niagara Frontier Council Boy Scouts who have a tradition of hosting their Order of the Arrow events at Stonehaven, to continue to do so. Put alarms on the two main, modernized buildings. Make them available as environmental education space. Preserving Stonehaven as a natural public space is a huge step in the right direction. It is important to move forward with a plan that looks not just at immediate concerns but at a vision that includes what things will look like 100 years from now. More at source: https://www.niagara-gazette.com/editorial-scout-camp-needs-careful-plan/article_5f7d3318-1ceb-5ed3-884b-dde621e0c3e1.html

Good question, seems we are being encouraged to look elsewhere for a BSA camp rather than leaseback a former camp. Would the NCAP still apply to a leased back camp? I doubt Council would get anywhere asking a owner to make changes if the camp was already ACA or state approved. My $0.02

Small empowered teams with names (even photos) and contact info readily available on their website. No google search of tax or Chapter 11 documents required. https://www.scouts.org.uk/about-us/our-people/

IMHO, hard to argue with success, we and the court could use their counsel in reorganizing the BSA. My $0.02,

Camp Barton, Baden-Powell Council, NY Three local towns Covert, Ulysses and Trumansburg are working together with state to acquire and manage property. ...the council must contribute over $1 million to a national trust fund being set up for a settlement. Public response to the idea of turning the camp into a park has been, by and large, very positive, said Deborah Nottke, Town of Covert deputy supervisor. What do most members of the public say they want from a new public park? “Kayaking, lake access, to picnic, go for walk, hiking, and just going someplace to enjoy the lake because a lot of people don’t have the money to buy lakeside property, but this way they will always have access to Cayuga Lake,” Nottke said. When local officials heard about the sale, they came up with a plan to preserve the scenic green space as a public park and went to local and state lawmakers for help raising awareness about the camp’s precarious future. Eventually word reached Erik Kulleseid, the New York State commissioner of parks. More at source: https://www.ithaca.com/news/regional_news/plans-to-turn-boy-scout-camp-into-park-progressing/article_5ba87464-c65a-11ec-8550-47f1c17b5e92.html

...UK Scouting Association "New figures released on Thursday show that youth membership – those aged between four and 18 – has grown from 362,668 to 421,852 between January 2021 and January 2022." Rest of story is behind paywall at https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/scouts-bear-grylls-cub-scouts-volunteering-covid-b2067142.html Compare Scouting Association transparency and feedback receptiveness with the BSA. There is even a Scout Experience survey form for@Eagle94-A1to review. https://www.scouts.org.uk/about-us/our-impacts-and-reports/

Deer Lake (CT) Update 4/26/2022: As the Connecticut Yankee Council imposed bid deadline of May 1, approaches... David Stephenson, an avid birder and supporter of the preservation of Deer Lake ...is seeking a declaratory judgment from the Middlesex Superior Court that any sale of Deer Lake must include a conservation restriction prohibiting any changes to the property inconsistent with its use as a bird sanctuary. According to the suit, the council received donations from New Haven ornithologist and philanthropist Richard English in 1985 to establish an eponymous bird sanctuary on the 255-acre property located at 101 Paper Mill Road in Killingworth. According to the suit, after the founder’s death in 2011, the Richard L. English Fund continued to make donations to the council amounting to approximately $100,000 annually. More at source: https://ctexaminer.com/2022/04/26/lawsuit-against-boy-scouts-says-bird-refuge-at-deer-lake-must-be-preserved/

Thank you. I edited some of those posts. ~RS

My daughter-in-law speaks highly of the results of the Patrol Method.

IMHO, the Patrol Method is not that everyone has a specific job rather everyone helps get the whole job done. My $0.02,

Related: Earth Day, Boy Scouts Helping to Regrow Florida's Vunerable Coral Reefs ...Florida’s coral reefs are under serious threat. “It is dying to be quite frank and that’s due to a number of factors, changes in water temp, quality, human interaction,” said Sea Base General Manager Mike Johnson. Johnson thought Scouts could be part of the solution. Using a technique called fragmentation, they cut corals into tiny pieces that regrow 50 times faster than they would in nature. The Scouts then plant them underwater to rebuild the reef. When asked if he thinks there might be a coral restoration merit badge on the horizon, Johnson said, “I hope so.” ... Since launching in 2018, the Sea Base nursery has grown 10,000 corals and is part of a two-decade project to restore millions of square feet of reef. 15-year-old Ryan Emmons says they’re helping the sea and future Scouts. More at Sources: https://miami.cbslocal.com/2022/04/19/earth-day-boy-scouts-regrow-florida-coral-reefs/ https://patch.com/florida/miami/earth-day-boy-scouts-helping-regrow-floridas-vunerable-coral-reefs

In this case, I will judge a book by its cover before reading it. 👍 He had me with "Adventures" in the title. Back in the day, we often rode in the back of the camp ranger's truck...great times... now prohibited by GTSS. For more background of this book by Robert Kellogg, who served as Troop 323 Scoutmaster from 1983 to 1995 see review below https://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/story/life/2022/04/18/three-rivers-man-relives-12-year-scoutmaster-tenure-humor/7288902001/

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That would be some price increase. I still see both 30in and 36in sash at $11.99 https://www.scoutshop.org/scouts-bsa-merit-badge-sash-36-62001.html

Welcome @akamistyeyes .

@akamistyeyes welcome to scouter.com. Let's move you to your own topic.

@DrKate welcome to scouter.com.

Deer Lake (CT) Update 4/18/2022: Connecticut Governor Governor and U.S. Senator now involved Governor Ned Lamont, a Democrat, said he recently toured the Deer Lake Scout Reservation in Killingworth and believes it should remain open space. “It's gorgeous,” Lamont said. “So we could step in as needed. We're not the piggy bank. I like going in along side other people.” U.S. Sen. Richard Blumenthal also has gotten involved in preservation effort. The Connecticut Democrat said he's looking into the possible use of money from the National Park Service's Land and Water Conservation Fund to help in the purchase of this camp and other Boy Scout properties for sale across the nation. “Unfortunately, local Boy Scout councils are selling to the highest bidder,” Senator Blumenthal said. “So, I think it is a national challenge, but it goes to the core of what scouting means and the ethos and ethic of scouting, which they may be betraying.” https://www.fox61.com/article/news/local/connecticut-governor-lamont-conservation-bid-for-boy-scout-camp-deer-lake/520-988adcfc-3928-4e6d-9288-74a23997b6f6

Locked again.

Ok, I just a 404 error too. It is not on the Internet Archive Wayback Machine either. Lucky for us that @InquisitiveScouter provided a copy.

Appears BSA Safety Incident Review: Lightning publication is again available online. https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/680-056_lightning.pdf

Recall two months ago: On November 12, 2020, Girl Scouts filed its proof of claim in the Bankruptcy Case, which is identified as Claim No. 11246 (as amended, supplemented or modified from time to time, the “Proof of Claim”)... As previously noted, Girl Scouts’ claim involves three distinct types of damages,...…to recover (1) defendant’s profits, (2) any damages sustained by the plaintiff, and (3) the costs of the action.”)... Girl Scouts currently estimates its claim to amount to no less than $18 million. Doc 8679 Filed 02/04/22 : https://casedocs.omniagentsolutions.com/cmsvol2/pub_47373/36057865-57ec-4d7c-b736-b8a5499747e8_8679.pdf Seems their claim has been ruled invalid.

Seems promising ... https://wnyscouting.doubleknot.com/camping/summer-camp-at-camp-scouthaven/67048 Update: 04/02/2022: Lewiston Supervisor Steve Broderick said the Town Board voted Monday to sign a sale contract to buy Camp Stonehaven for $665,000. Broderick said Lewiston plans to turn Camp Stonehaven into a nature preserve. "We may even coordinate with the Western New York Land Conservancy for some protection of some of that land," Broderick said. "It would be open to the public. There's one pavilion out there that we might keep. We're probably looking into getting rid of some of the cabins out there, because we don't want that liability." "Over the next several months, we will be announcing exciting facility and program enhancements to improve and expand Scouthaven’s role as the pre-eminent home for scouting locally," the Greater Niagara Frontier Council said. https://buffalonews.com/news/local/local-boy-scout-council-sells-camps-to-fund-share-of-sex-abuse-settlement/article_c2001d10-b12f-11ec-b714-6f955daff0d5.html

Good point. Another concern is fallen trees from thunderstorms. Here's a former Camp Hinds (ME) counselor cabin (no one inside at strike) https://www.pressherald.com/2018/08/08/tree-falls-on-unoccupied-cabin-at-scout-camp-in-raymond/

Camp Titanic? Strike that, Titanic crew served children first.