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I am waiting for the Girl Scouts to announce that they will now sell popcorn too!

Here Youth Protection training must be taken every TWO years. Five years sounds more sensible but then we likely have more child abuse litigation. Once and done works for me. In our general program, there is NO first aid training requirement for adult leaders. Some camps and activities, e.g. Philmont, may require leaders have CPR and Wilderness First Aid training. Doesn't make sense to me either.

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Maybe my unit is a fluke, but he have more parents (dads) who were scouts than our registered leaders. In their view, there is less hassle and cost in just informally helping than formally registering as a leader. I like your smart use of "family camping" to demonstrate scouting and recruit adults say once a year or two years. How often are your adult leaders required to take youth protection training?

Some questions: What percentage of your scout leaders were scouts? Reading posts here, my impression you have a higher percentage than we. Do you have "Family Camping" in your program? Modest Proposal: Maybe we should relocate BSA HQ to Britain for this transition.

Well stated @@njdrt-rdr , @@Tampa Turtle IMO, more scouters will leave over National's lack of trustworthiness and leadership and invasive Family Camping than girl membership.

@@IHC welcome to scouter.com

Offline, decide how many and which adults you want, then individually ask each to volunteer. My $0.02

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Okay the debating teachers are eating at Applebee's or Olive Garden. Let's stay on topic.

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@@Peter1919 thanks for your help, welcome to scouter.com

Yup, @@Sentinel947, you asked it better than me.

@@lakes_stu thanks for joining in. With the addition of girls, what new did you ask/require of parents in protecting scouts and supporting your program?

National trustworthiness and leadership in the decision-making and planning here are in doubt.

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@@usarasa welcome to scouter.com

Conversation or bickering? My point is stay on topic, the debating coach argument is not relevant.

Is the BSA the only scouting organization with age overlaps among its programs? From the Scouting Association Cubs (8-10 yrs old) Scouts (10-14) Explorer Scouts (14-18) Scout Network (18-25) No overlap, no poaching.

Getting girls in a unit to wear the same colorful necker may be a challenge.

Okay debate points made. Where is the transition plan and its goals or will National pay an outside consultant firm to produce one in the next 3 months (God help us)?

Well what were results of the pilot programs prior to this decision?

IMO, I think officially "local option" will require pre-conditions. Rather than the nonsense of staff and train months later in time for re-charter, it will be done before a unit can locally opt to be coed. My $0.02

We knew this decision was coming, but I had hoped when announced a transition plan would be articulated.

Wow. I have not read that the membership increase would go entirely to pay for liability insurance. BSA did not respond to questions about the ongoing lawsuits, but documents indicate that costs related to these cases may be one reason why BSA is beefing up its insurance reserves by making some changes to increase revenue. The organization recently announced that it would be increasing annual membership fees from $24 to $33 beginning in December. An email to area participants from the Glacier’s Edge Council, a BSA unit that encompasses parts of Wisconsin and Illinois, explained why: The Boy Scouts of America has seen a dramatic increase in liability lawsuits which has decreased our movement’s financial position by between $40 to $50 million annually since 2010. An increase in the annual membership fee is required to financially stabilize our movement. All of the funds generated from the increase will go directly to the National BSA General Liability Insurance Fund.