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  1. This is so darn funny I cant remember what it was I wanted to post. Oh, now I remember. There is absolutely nothing wrong with stinky cheese. It is usually a good sign of a properly aged cheese, and I think my mother's college health teacher was right that cheeses and wines need to be properly aged, and that it is safer to drive a car with more steel in it than a tank. I personally favor the cheese made by the Trappist monks at the Abbey of Gethsemani, http://www.monks.org/ which is located near Bardstown, KY and all the Bourbon distilleries (which
  2. As to when to wear the sash, the advice given by others covers it well. While I was Lodge Chief I did not wear my sash to all events. Instead I wore it to OA functions, and when I was representing the Order. I would suggest troop reps should not wear the sash to normal troop meetings, but if making an OA related presentation (such as promoting the next lodge event, or promoting a lodge sponsored council wide service project) at a troop meeting or PLC, it would be appropriate to wear the sash. Normally he would be wearing his universal arrow ribon, lodge flap, and his OA troop rep patch to
  3. Don't be too concerned with getting the biggest pack in the universe, get one large enough for what you will normally use it for (OK, maybe a little bit bigger), and for those extra long treks just get inventive in your packing. Years ago my parents got me (at my suggestion) a peak 1 external composite frame backpack. It is a good size pack with an extremely good suspension system, but it lacks many of the features now common, and really is at its limit for a week long trip. However, I ended up taking that pack to Philmont in 01. I just had to work hard on keeping volume down (which usuall
  4. In the old days, new candidates were tapped out. Due to the fact that there is no nationally dictated ceremony for this, some lodges became quite inventive in their methods. Unfortunately, at least a few did things that could be physically harmful or would now be considered hazing. Therefore, the OA put out new guidelines that changed the tap-out into the call-out. Many now believe that any physical contact during ceremonies is prohibited. However, a careful read of the Guide for Officers and Advisers, and the Guide to Inductions, reveals there is no such policy. On page 18 of the Gu
  5. Ordeal: spring 1999 at Camp Wildcat Hollow Brotherhood: spring 2000 at Camp Wildcat Hollow Vigil Honor: early 2003 at Camp Wildcat Hollow I have served on several ceremonies teams. I served in chapter offices in 2000 and 2001. I served as Chief of the White Horse Lodge in 2002. http://www.lodge201.org From the time I received the Vigil Honor until the present time I have served as chairman of the lodge's Brothers of the Vigil Honor committee. I will likely remain in that capacity until I become an adult Arrowman later this year. I was not tapped or called out prior to
  6. Try supply division, or your local scout shop or council office for those cards. I know I received cards with all my advancements, and most of my merit badges (time period 1995-2001). They are still available last I knew. I can't locate them in the on-line catalog, but ask around next time you are at the scout shop and they will probably be able to hook you up. I believe they refer to these as "pocket certificates".(This message has been edited by Proud Eagle)
  7. This statement may actually have been correct. I know of one troop that until very recently (last couple of years) gave all new scouts who had earned the AOL their Tenderfoot automatically. Why they did this no one really knows. It is just the way they did things. It is possible there are other troops still doing this. Hopefully, if this is the case, someone can be shown the light and brought up to speed on how things are supposed to work in the 21st century.
  8. This is one of those cases where you know what happened, but would have a heck of a time ever proving it to anyone. You should watch this PL very closely. I would recommend a SM conference with the boy. Don't mention the specific situation that prompted it. Just discuss the issues of proper behavior for Scouts, and the expectations you have for those participating in troop functions. Try to get him to do some self analysis if you can. Also, a discussion with the committee may be in order. I would at least bounce the idea off the CC to see what he thinks. If you don't thin
  9. I am very much against the idea of the "you vote for me and I will make APL". This is particularly troubling because he could be making that exact deal with every member of the patrol and no one would know until it is too late. Also, if he is elected, he should be selecting his APL based on merit, not on who they voted for. This isn't good. I would suggest that a good way to deal with this would be to have the PLC set down some guidelines about campaigning. I don't mind campaigning, but this seems more like bribery. Though I guess this is minor compared to what goes on with OA sect
  10. These things happen. The last Eagle court I attended was for a friend back during spring break. I know him through OA, and so do many others, so there was a large group of OA people in attendance. The day before this COH the council exec had resigned under "interesting" circumstances and so that was the dominating topic of discussion. Fortunately, most in attendance were inclined to celebrate that news as well, so it just added to the celebratory atmosphere. In any case, being asked to take part in an Eagle COH is a pretty big honor, and a bit humbling. I had the experience of be
  11. I remember hearing something about this some time ago. Apparently the idea is to fully integrate the tiger dens into the pack, so that it is more or less just another type of den, rather than a semi-separate program. The change in uniforms is part of that. Also, I think another idea was to have one less reason for tigers to quit after their first year. From what I remember reading, there was supposed to be at least a year that packs could choose either uniform, then it was going to the CS blues only. That is all I can remember, and it may be a bit off since I don't really follow C
  12. Effective use of electronic communications, with some time devoted to proper etiquette for use with such things as email. See the thread on Problems with Email for the idea. It could also incorporate some information on how to supplement printed mailings with electronic mailings, that sort of thing.
  13. I guess I have been pretty lucky. Every time someone starts sending me lots of forwards I am always able to convince them to either take me off the list of people they forward to, or at least to only send the good stuff. Most of them went the rout of only sending the good stuff. I personally try to avoid forwarding anything non-essential. I know there are some scouting people around here who cause problems. The DC has been blocked by almost every Scouter in the district because he forwards everything to everyone, no exceptions. One SM even had him blocked from the entire network
  14. I have also been unable to enter the restricted area. I know I have the correct spelling, since I have it printed in one of the ceremonies. I also tried the alternative spelling from the Lenape-English Dictionary with the same results. When I enter in my user name, password, and the forum password it comes back with an HTTP 500 Internal server error.
  15. My council has three camps. One was a summer camp until the 70s. For latrines all it has is two normal bathrooms in the lodge/cabin/dining hall building. Another had its last year of Boy Scout camp in 94. It has latrines in various states of (dis)repair at each campsite. These latrines are a small step above a true outhouses. They mostly have a pilot/copilot seat configuration, a urinal, trough like sink (cold water only), and water spigot. Hot showers are available at the pool, and there is a shower in the staff lodge and the medical lodge as well. There are also a few flush
  16. This is a test of the Issues and Politics inflammatory subjects system. If the system is working, by the mere mention of the three words I am about to post, a 5 page argument will be started. GAYS GOD GIRLS
  17. I have occasionally slipped and used (a homonym for something beavers build), (a word beginning with "c" for something deposited in a latrine), or hell in ways that were probably not optimal. I don't think I have ever done this while leading youth, per say. However, as a youth OA leader I have sometimes slipped and done so around other youth OA leaders who are also youth members of the BSA. I try not to use any objectionable language, but I do sometimes slip up from time to time. Though I still maintain hell is just a geographical (for lack of a better term) location when used in the prope
  18. I have yet to make use of the squelch feature. I do not intend to ever make use of it. However, if some poster decides to make their personal mission in life attacking me, or some other thing such as that, then I would likely be forced to use it. Perhaps everyone who posts here should agree to just forgive and forget the past insults and injuries by other posters, and everyone could also rededicate themselves to the applying the Oath and Law to these forums. Then everyone could turn the squelch off and we could get back to the business at hand. Online re-dedication ceremony
  19. The only thing I would suggest on this topic is to place the FOS presentation at the beggining of the COH. The entire thing is more dignified if all the other business is out of the way before the recognition portion is begun. Another possible venue for FOS, would be a parents meeting. I know many troops have at least a couple of those each year to keep the parents informed about things like major trips coming up and the annual fundraiser and such. Another good place (and this may bring in some outside the unit money) would be a cook out with members of the charter organization. B
  20. When did I say, or suggest, that Scouts should be rotated as quickly as possible? When did I say anything at all about the Scout's need/want for rank advancement? The answer is never, at least not in this thread. I did mention there is a need to create a balance between the desire to train and developed new leaders and the desire to have the most qualified person in a position at all times. That doesn't sound like some radical statement to me. I did go on to say that I would slightly favor developing a new leader over leaving the better qualified one in place. Lets thi
  21. I think a few people have hit on a good point. In many cases the choice to move to a district position is seen as leaving the unit entirely. In fact, I think many unit leaders promote that idea to keep their leaders. Also, some unit leaders are automatically suspicious of district or council related things. Further, the district and council people spread the same idea. The tell people they want people that will dedicate their full Scouting time to the district to fill positions. They tell people they will be moving "beyond" the unit and other things that would make it sound like you will
  22. I think I should revise my statement, after having read the posts here and considered the matter more closely. I think part of the problem is, no one wants to do anything for the district. All the competent, active leaders currently in Scouting are up to their eyeballs in unit level stuff. No unit has any active leaders to spare to move into district positions. The district hasn't had much luck in getting people outside of Scouting to help out either.
  23. You know, it actually reminds me more of the Starfleet uniforms from Star Trek than anything else. I can't speak for the average Australian by any means, or even the average American for that matter, but I would certainly want no part of such a uniform.
  24. Your MSalagy is flawed. Leadership development is largely a cumulative process. Your quartermaster probably learned skills while in that position that will be helpful in carrying out other responsibilities. To put it another way, lets say you do send the guy off to Access training. When he gets back you soon send to to Photo shop training. Now he knows two of the programs that make up the complete Office suit. Maybe a little later he can learn Power Point. Sure, maybe some of the very specific skills such as the inventory system itself may only apply to the quartermaster's pos
  25. Have the Brits finally learned to drink coffee? If so they have a more tolerant pallet than I do. I will take a good cup of tea over coffee any time. p.s. Yes, I know they have coffee on that side of the pond as well. I even saw a study (National Geographic, I think) that showed the Turks are drinking more tea than the the English now due to the increasing popularity of other drinks, including coffee. What is the world coming to?
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