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    Eagle Reference Letters

    I didn't realize it, but section 9.0.1.7 of the Guide to Advancement does say: "For reasons of privacy and confidentiality, electronic submissions are discouraged." I have never been quite sure what the BSA means when it says something is "discouraged." Personally, I think that with most unit Scouters, the effect is the same as if the BSA had said nothing about it at all. I also think that there are more ways that a physical letter can be waylaid, mislaid, lost, etc. etc. than an email, so if privacy and confidentiality are the key concerns, I am not sure this "discouragement" is a good thing.
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    Can you not give it 100%?

    In the Cub Scouts? As a Bear? I know there have been numerous changes in the Cub Scout program since I left it when my son crossed over (2003) but is that what the Cub Scout program is now? We had 2 family camping trips a year plus the kids could go to the council-run summer day camp.
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    Can you not give it 100%?

    It's not? Now I know where I've gone wrong.
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    Membership Removal Procedures Booklet

    It has been my experience (during my 32 years as an attorney) that when a lawyer makes an absolute statement like that (BSA can do as they please), which isn't really true, what they are really saying is that they don't think you have a good case, and/or they don't think they can make a profit from your case. But they don't want to tell you they don't think you have a good case, and/or they don't think they can make a profit from your case, so they tell you the BSA can do whatever it wants. I have seen attorneys tell potential clients all kinds of not-quite-right things (and occasionally just plain wrong things) in order to get the person off their back. I don't know if this is what happened to you, but when I hear about something like this I do get suspicious.
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    Vintage Uniform QUESTION... CUBS B.S.A.

    Oh, and, Welcome to the Forum!
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    Vintage Uniform QUESTION... CUBS B.S.A.

    I can't tell you about the buttons, but the "Cubs B.S.A." over the pocket appears to match this: https://d3h6k4kfl8m9p0.cloudfront.net/stories/i0vgaoY8HOB9trbZfeHgaQ.jpg The page says the shirt is from 1940. And notice the "angling" of the letters on the shirt, matching that on the neckerchief and the button. I don't think I have ever seen that on a shirt before. I am going to guess that it didn't look like that by the time I became a Cub Scout in 1966.
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    GSUSA Near Drowning

    It sounds like they were lucky your friend was there, "a little inebriated" or not. Of course, if her rescue attempt had been unsuccessful, and it became known that she was "a little inebriated," she would currently be going through a nightmare on several levels. If the GSUSA policy seems a little lax as to drinking "in secret," well, guess what, the current version of the BSA policy on alcohol is no better. It was a good policy until they re-worded it into a big nothing.
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    Membership Removal Procedures Booklet

    Internally, I think the CO would just do whatever they do when terminating any other volunteer associated with their organization. The BSA does not impose specific procedures on the CO's for that. Externally, it would be logical for the CO, having removed a volunteer, to direct the CC to write a letter to Council informing them that the person is no longer affiliated with the unit and should be removed from the charter. (I don't think you get a refund though.)
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    Only six months till girls in Scouts BSA.

    I think it is just one of a series of misunderstandings, in some cases by people who are paid to know better. If the first girls join Scouts USA in Feb. 2019, there is no way any of them can make Eagle in 2019. Unless time travel is invented between now and then. I know Iowa always wants to be the "first" in everything, but they are going to have to settle for a "tie" this time.
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    Only six months till girls in Scouts BSA.

    And yet I have read elsewhere that there will be no "early adopter" option for "Scouts BSA" as there was for Cub Scouts. Or has that changed?
  11. I think it's clear enough. It is also the case that the decision about whether to accept work previously done is up to the counselor, not the Scoutmaster. An SM has no say at all in whether a Scout has successfully completed a merit badge, with that one fairly new exception for cases where it is clear that the counselor signed the card but the Scout did not actually complete the requirements. But that is not what is going on here.
  12. I think the answer is stated clearly enough in the sentence I have bolded below from section 7.0.0.3 of the BSA's Legal Code on Advancement Guide to Advancement 2017. I have included exerpts of other parts of that section to provide context:
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    Who is headed to NOAC 2018?

    Forest green robes? But that might be too close to the Spiral Scouts, if they still exist.
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    Who is minding the Baltimore Area Council office?

    It does seem strange. To make it more strange, the video says the woman entered the building at 7:35 p.m. and left an hour later. Were they really having a staff meeting at that hour?
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    Breaking Point

    It boggles my mind that anyone associated with Scouting would say that.
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    Breaking Point

    That may be the common-sense answer, but I don't think its the BSA answer.
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    Miscellaneous Uniform Gripes

    It's also part of the title of a Frank Zappa song, "Peaches en Regalia," but we'll probably never know what he meant by it, since it's an instrumental and he gave mostly random titles to his instrumentals.
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    Jim Turley, new National BSA Chair

    I changed the title of this thread so it was a little clearer what it is about On a substantive note, I found this interesting: A bit of an understatement, but at least he made the effort.
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    That sounds better than black robes. I think some people would misunderstand the meaning of the black robes, regardless of the fact that they were used all those years ago on Treasure Island. (The actual island, Treasure Island, is in New Jersey. It is one of two islands that makes up the ex-camp, the other one of which is in Pa. Just thought I'd mention that.)
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    Black robes... what are the other options?
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    I am curious, how would you answer your own question?
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    Denied a court of honor.

    Well, someone has to invite people to speak, and it should be your son, or at least it should be people he wants to speak and you can do the inviting if that is what he prefers. As for the MC, there is no absolute rule that says a parent cannot be the MC, but I have never seen it happen. It would be kind of awkward, at least the way my troop does ECOH's, because during the presentation of the Eagle badge etc. the parents are called up to stand behind their son and he then pins the Mom's and Dad's pins on his parents. Sometimes the MC will say something about all the support the Scout's parents gave him and he should be thankful to them, etc, etc. So a parent as MC really would get awkward, kind of like the Woody Allen movie where he is both his own attorney and the witness, and he is physically hopping back and forth every time he changes roles. Funny in a movie, not at a ceremony. In our troop there is a recent tendency for the Scout to choose one of his friends in the troop, or a recent alumnus from the troop, as the MC rather than one of the adult leaders. Obviously it should be someone who is not afraid to get up in front of a group of people and speak, and who can read from a script in a reasonably articulate manner, and who if something unexpected happens (e.g. it is Mr. Smith's turn to come up and read the Eagle charge or whatever, and Mr. Smith has gone to the men's room) can think on his feet, switch the order of things on the spot or say a few words off the cuff or whatever, rather than falling into little pieces on the floor (which is what would happen with many kids and quite frankly many adults as well.) Usually this means an older Scout, and it is nice if it is an Eagle but it does not have to be. (The kids in our troop who have been MC have all done a great job. One kid who has done it a few times also has some acting experience in high school, which is not a coincidence.) And yes, there should be a script. There are some on the Internet. If I had one handy I would send it to you, but I don't. Good luck.
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    Denied a court of honor.

    If it were me, I would give up on getting a better explanation and move on. Someone(s) has an issue with your son. That's just the way it is. Maybe you and/or your son have some idea what the issue is, maybe you don't. I just don't see what can be done about it at this point. Except that you and your son can organize and carry out his court of honor. It sounds like there are people in the troop who would probably agree to participate (such as the SM, who can ceremonially award the Eagle pin, certificate etc. to your son and maybe say a few words) and maybe some who won't. Good luck to your son.
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    SHOULD HE BE REVOKED AS SPL?

    Matt the Life Scout, are you a member of the PLC? Does the PLC actually have meetings? I ask this because the PLC can be an agent for change in the troop, more than the average 15-etc.-year-old may realize. When I hear a discussion among the boys (or when one of them asks me at a BOR or elsewhere) about a change they would like to make in the troop, I always suggest that they talk about it in the PLC, and if a majority of the PLC thinks it's a good idea, they write it up and give it to the SM to give to the committee for consideration. So far I don't think they have ever taken me up on it, and I have seen a few good ideas drift away because the boys could not devote say 30 minutes of their lives to bringing the issue to the committee's attention. (In at least one case I brought the idea up at a committee meeting myself, but I thought the others were things that should come to the boys, if at all.) Matt the Life Scout, if you read my post about what I did in ancient times when I was ASPL, you can do that, assuming you are a member of a functioning PLC. You can point what the book says about elections. If the other Scouts agree with you (perhaps over the vote of the current SPL, if he there), you type up the plan and give it to the SM. And watch what he does with it. If he takes it to the committee, maybe there will be a change. If he throws it in the wastebasket, then you have other issues with your troop.
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    SHOULD HE BE REVOKED AS SPL?

    Oh, and welcome to the forum!
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