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  1. Ditto OGE file an ammended Advancement Report. The dates of First Class,Star and Life BOR's submitted on Eagle application are checked by Council and or District Advancement Committee. Its much easier to fix this oversight now than waiting until its found on Eagle application somewhere down the road.
  2. Scouters training award medal is cat# 00922 Scoutmasters Key/Varsity Scout Coach is cat # 00924 Cat #'s can be found in Insigna Guide. District supplied knot and certificate. Troop purchases the medal for the Leaders who earn the award. fgoodwin,last time troop purchased this medal was May 2004 if that helps you.
  3. Dave you finally woke up,that was a heck of a nap you took. BTW welcome back. Its nice to see your smiling face again.
  4. oldsm, yes you are correct no Adult application. It's a form letter that you have to sign and return to Council. The letter I received last year also asked for date of YPT. Our Council has its own MBC application which is a combination of BSA's Adult and MBC application's which you complete once.
  5. Our Council sends a letter to MBC's once a year. It askes if there are any changes to your address or phone # and whether you want to add or delete any badges. If you do not respond to the lettter by its due date the MBC is dropped from Council MBC list. Council maintains and posts MBC listing on their website.
  6. OGE, you win. That is the perfect summer camp.
  7. We used Stadri for our 10th Anniv neckerchief and for our troop numerals. They were very helpful in chosing thread colors as neckerchief was custom embroidery. We are very satisfied with their work.
  8. Congratulations to OJ and also to you E. You are so correct it is their goal to accomplish. As OJ pointed out sometimes we parents and leaders push to hard and turn the scouts off for awhile.
  9. You really can't compare the United States with Canada. Canada has official languages, Quebec province's official language is French and English is the official language in all the other Provinces. O Canada would be sung in French in Quebec and not in english. Am all in favor of immigrants retaining their heritage but not to the extent that they never learn English. Am second generation American, when Dad started school he barely spoke English as Greek was the language used at home.
  10. It is unfortunate that Mom sees the destination rather than the journey. There is more to Scouting than just advancement. Paths taken and things learned can be more fulfilling than ranks and merit badges earned. "We finalized the steps to adjust rank requirements." I hope that in your discussions someone has been deligated to contact your Council's Advancement Committee Chair. They do need to be contacted to find out exactly what your Council's proceedures are in obtaining alternate requirements. They will also have an idea of how long the process takes. A time frame may be 3-6 mont
  11. Yes, the questions are supposed to be open ended as Lisa'bob pointed out. I did not feel it was necessary to repeate what she said in her excellent post. "If the board of review is for rank advancement, the board will satisfy itself that the Scout has done what he was supposed to do for that rank and will review with the Scout the requirements for the next rank. The board of review is also a way of reviewing the troop's progress." BSA supplemental training module,board of review training. The basic premise of "learned and completed"are the same as "has done what he was supposed to do" The
  12. SWScouter, I was quoting from the Eighth Edition, First printing June 1972 pages 74-75. Tenderfoot,Second Class,First Class,Star,Life, and Eagle were not called Ranks but progress awards (pg 74). I apologize for not stating my scouce. The whole program of Boy Power and urban scouting was culture shock when I got reinvolved in Scouting in 1974 during college, after earning Eagle and aging out in 1971. They were interesting times but that was to be expected with a Handbook not written by Bill Hillcourt. LongHaul,asking a Scout what,why,how questions is not in my opinion a rete
  13. Karent welcome to the campfire. What you are looking for is: A Guide to working with Boy Scouts with Disabilities BSA pub #33056c I have the 2004 printing Application for alternate Eagle required merit Badges : http://www.scouting.org/forms/58-730.pdf What you are looking for can be found on page 2 of the application. It states: "This does not apply to individual requirements for merit babges.Merit badges are awarded only when all requirements are met as stated".
  14. OGE, there was a time when youth did handle the advancement proceedures for Tenderfoot, Second Class and First Class. It started with the Eighth Edition of the Handbook in June 1972. It continued through the Ninth Edition of the Handbook. The Tenth Edition in Jan 1990 changed it to what we have today. BOR's done by Troop Committee. They were not called BOR's but Progress Reviews and were done by the Troop Leaders Council and which may have had a Committee Member sitting in as an adviser. "Maybe the Dug Nevius form of scouting isnt as "Twisted" as previously thought." Dug, t
  15. John-in-KC: Yes I do remember, Wolf-Bear-Lion-Scout. I earned my Lion in 1963-1964. Tho my Cub shirt is long gone. I Did save all the cub rank patches and arrow points I earned.
  16. Somethings to look at are: Who is chosing the activity? Is it a few scouts or adults who decide what to do. Who choses where the activity is? It could be the scouts are bored with going to the same place all the time. Are the dates of activities being checked against school calendar for conflicts with school activities? This is a concern in the Troop I serve in. Middle school has a few activities that take place on weekends. We also have atleast 4 Scouts every year who are HS band members. In 12 years only once was the SPL not a band member. Are camping trips so organized tha
  17. Multiple palms can be earned. The Insignia Guide does explain how multiple palms are worn. As John-in-KC said the only limit is the Scouts 18th birthday. And the 3 months tenure from last palm earned. This also may be helpful. http://www.meritbadge.com/adv/palms.htm
  18. CNYScouter,to answer your questions paintball is a violation of G2SS and redesigning the uniform is violating National Policy. And any responsible Scout leader would have to step in and say no to them. But we are not talking about violating G2SS or rewriting National Policy. We are talking about patrols and patrol method. How can a patrol of 2 scouts develop leadership or demonstrate patrol method? When you combine patrols you're sending a message that patrols are not important. Are you or are you giving them the opportunity to practice leadership and the patrol method? What me
  19. Yes,CNYScouter a SM sould use directing, coaching, supporting, and delegating styles of leading. But in your scenario I can only see coaching being used and the others not at all. In many of your posts CNYScouter you have complained about not finding boy led Troops in your area. Yet in the scenario you wrote you demonstrated an adult led unit. Which I do not understand why. Two Scouts is really not a patrol and they can not effectively demonstrate the Patrol Method. While you may have Scouts who would go on an outing with only 2 members and talk up what fun they had. The oppo
  20. A different question is what are we teaching in your scenario CNYScouter, boy led or adult led? What Aims or Methods of Scouting are being ignored while maintaining one Method? PL3: I have an idea. Why dont we combine patrols 3 and 4? This way we will have a better chance at winning. What are the Scouts showing with this idea? Decision making,leadership,working to a common goal? To an adult their reason of winning may be flawed but to them it may make sense. SM: Hey guys wait a minute. We do things by patrols. So, the combining of patrols is out. But, if you want to compete you will h
  21. There is a difference between a VAT and Sales Tax. VAT or Value Added Tax applies to items that become something else during processing or manufacture. Sales Tax can be applied to both goods and services. Gern,you are correct that the VAT is collected at each transaction it applies to. VAT is a pass through Tax and the final consumer would pay all accumulated VAT. The question with a VAT becomes what becomes exempt- food items,clothing. The more you exempt the higher the VAT rate becomes. Final selling price has very little to do if anything with the VAT tax collected. VAT b
  22. Kaji, As scoutldr and Kahuna have said no AOL knot and flags were not worn in the 60's. I did some checking in old Boy Scout Handbooks that I own. The earliest reference that I have to a flag being worn on a uniform is the inside back cover of the Boy Scout Handbook Seventh Edition Seventh Printing,January 1971. That template shows it in the current position on the right sleeve. The next oldest Handbook I have is the one I used as a Scout which is Sixth Edition Sixth Printing,January 1964. Where there are no uniform flags.
  23. This is not something I would recommend as an accountant in NJ for your unit. As Kahuna said a unit can not be incorporated, you would have to create your own 501©(3) corporation. You would need to file IRS form 1023 for tax exempt status,the form is 28 pages. Filing fee for the form for reciepts of less than $10k is $150 increasing to $300 on July 1,2006. If receipts are greater than $10K the fee is $500 increasing to $750 on July 1,2006. Unit books are included in the corps books for IRS filing. Receipts includes all monies that pass through your checkbook. Even if the IRS grants t
  24. The Twin Towers falling is an emotional event in my area of northern New Jersey. The NYC skyline is visible from within the town I grew up in. It is not unusual for either yourself or someone you know to have lost a relative, friend or a neighbor in the Twin Towers attack. Just driving around in my town and seeing the hole in the sky where the Twin Towers stood is very emotional for me. It is my reminder of what happened and that I lost my best friend of 35 years that day. Do I like seeing the Towers falling or that hole in the NYC sky, no not really. I have to agree that others may need r
  25. BSA National had 3 offices in NYC. First was in the YMCA on 28th Street. Then 200 5th Ave. Sometime in the 30's they moved to 2 Park Ave. In 1953 National moved to North Brunswick,NJ. I do not remember the exact reason for the move to Irving in 1979.
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