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  1. We have not done any in-person den meetings since March. As of right now, our Charter Org is going to start letting us use their building for in-person meetings starting September 1, but I'm not comfortable meeting with my den in person. Covid cases are going up with no signs of stopping. We're going to still be doing virtual meetings. My counterpart boys den is supposedly going to meet in person (we met jointly all a last year).
  2. Here is what my pack did for Cub Scout Advancement. We did Weblos Crossover in February before shelter in place orders were issued. I'd skip the face paint this year. GREETINGS!Here is our Social Distancing Plan for this year's CROSSOVER!Our goal is for each Scout to be able to be present in the same location as our Cubmaster as they receive any Adventures, Awards, and Ranks they have earned, and don the uniform components of their newly earned Rank.Being sensitive to our current climate of Social Distancing, we will do this one scout at a time, outside, at the Church Parking Lot.Each ra
  3. I've been through a Lodge Merger as a youth. It was a tough merger (due to some unfair Scout Executive edicts), but I think there are some things that I can suggest that will help: 1. The youth must lead the merge: Get key youth from the two lodges to sit down and work through the merger. Try to keep the numbers balanced. 2. Get an impartial moderator: Maybe a Section officer can help lead the discussion of the youth. Or you have someone with strong ties to both lodges. 3. Limit the adults in the meeting room: Maybe 1 adult from each lodge and the new staff adviser. 4. Foc
  4. This is sadly a policy of my lodge. I have inquired about he purpose in this requirement, and I have been told that the purpose is to increase attendance at chapter meeting and lodge events. However, having attended quite a few of my chapter events, they are pretty sparsely attended. I would assume that the other Chapters in my lodge are pretty similar. Yet I still see many adults being inducted in the lodge. My troop has not always participated in the required 50%, and we have never had an adult nomination declined. I have a feeling that the rule is not enforced consistently or even rout
  5. I wanted to make a correction to my above post. The word test is in the first ceremony, but only in referenncing a specific symbolic activity. The four ordeal challenges themselves are not referred to as test.
  6. I've had a week along the Superior Hiking Trail in MN to ponder this. Most of our Scouts understand a test as someelse evaluating thier performance and then judging them, like in School. My OA handbook (89 edition, 94 printing) has a similar definition of an Ordeal Master as John's. However, there is something missing in the responsibilities on an Ordeal Master. An Ordeal Master can't fail a candidate. Nor can a Lodge Chief, or even a lodge advisor. Why? Because there is no one that can fail a candidate at the ordeal, except the candidate himself. This is induction principl
  7. There are two sentiments that I feel are common in this thread, and they are that the Ordeal is a test of the candidate, and that OA membership conferred on a Scout that has no intention to be active in the OA as a member is wasted. I am a Vigil Honor member, and have been active the OA as a youth and adult. After many years of learning about and studying the Order, my understanding of both sentiments is that they are not a reflection of the Orders true intent. I believe that Ordeal is not a test, but a learning opportunity. The purpose of the Ordeal is to give the Scouts insight
  8. As a Cub Scout and Boy Scout, I went to Camp Pine Ridge in Southern Illinois. I also worked staff there for the last two years it was a summer camp. It is no longer operated as a summer camp, but the facility is still there. I then worked at Camp Lewallen in Southeast Misouri for three years. With my current troop, I have been to Ma-Ka-Ja-Wan (Northern Wisconsin), Owassippe (Western Michigan), Roy C. Manchester (Western Kentucky), and Tesomas (Northern Wisconsin). This year, the Troop is going to Decorah. If anyone here lives in the upper Midwest, I would highly recommend T
  9. As a Cub Scout and Boy Scout, I went to Camp Pine Ridge in Southern Illinois. I also worked staff there for the last two years it was a summer camp. It is no longer operated as a summer camp, but the facility is still there. I then worked at Camp Lewallen in Southeast Misouri for three years. With my current troop, I have been to Ma-Ka-Ja-Wan (Northern Wisconsin), Owassippe (Western Michigan), Roy C. Manchester (Western Kentucky), and Tesomas (Northern Wisconsin). This year, the Troop is going to Decorah. If anyone here lives in the upper Midwest, I would highly recommend T
  10. The Eagle Scout Application does have two lines available for the POR requirement, so that seems to indicate to me that more than one POR can be used, as long as the total is six months.
  11. In my native land of Southern Illinois, we have a restaurant called 17th Street Bar & Grill that has the best ribs in the USA. They are fantastic. At least, that's what the Food Network thinks. http://tinyurl.com/yutjvx Sorry, John-in-KC. I live in the Chicagoland, and nothing around here really compares.
  12. The rule that says that Scouts can only vote for 50% of the Scouts on the ballot is no longer in effect. It was discontinued in the late 1990s. Now Scouts can vote for as many Scouts that the feel are worth to be in the OA. So using Bro-hoodWWW's example, if you have 10 Scouts on the ballot, the Scouts can vote for all 10 Scouts. Or none. Or any combination in between. A Scout still needs at least 50% of the votes to be elected. You also need to have at least 50% of your active Troop present at the election in order to conduct it.
  13. I was a youth officer of the Ney-A-Ti Lodge (Egyptian Council) in southern Illinois when it merged with the St. Louis Area Council (forming the Greater St. Louis Area Council, or GSLAC) in 1995. Ney-A-Ti merged with Anpetu-we (the afore mentioned second OA lodge), and I served on the merger committee, as well as on GSLAC summer camp staff for three years, so I have a pretty good understanding and unique perspective of the situation in GSLAC. Since I worked on Summer Camp Staff, I worked with a lot of Shawnee members and units, but looked at it as an outsider. However, I am no longer a member
  14. This is a true story. The names have been changes to protect the innocent. Just returned from a week at Tesomas Scout Reservation near Rhinelander WI. I was very impressed with the quality of the Camp, its staff and program, and would heartily recommend it to anyone looking for a good camp in the upper midwest. Anyway, the SM of the Troop asked me to keep tabs on all the Scoutcraft MBs. We had two Scouts taking Fishing MB at the same time (9am in the morning). I asked them separately on Wednesday night how things were going. They are both in thier second year of summer cam
  15. NDL: While I think that if you are interested in becoming a better leader, you should take WB, there is one thing that you should be aware of. Most, if not all, of the course simulations are based on how a Boy Scout Troop operates. I had a CS Den Leader in my Patrol, and she was at time a little lost because she didn't understand the meeting formats, etc. And its not like many troop actually follow the model meeting formats (although they should, my Troop does and it works great). I think that WB is a great program and will help you not only in your Scouting life, but all area
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