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Acco40, for hiking MB the hiking requirements are: req 5. Take five hikes, each on a different day, and each of at least ten continuous miles. Prepare a hike plan for each hike.* req 6. Take a hike of 20 continuous miles in one day following a hike plan you have prepared.* *The hikes in requirements 5 and 6 can be used in fulfilling Second Class Rank (2a) and First Class Rank (3) rank requirements, but only if Hiking merit badge requirements 1, 2, 3, and 4 have been completed to the satisfaction of your counselor. The hikes of requirements 5 and 6 cannot be used to fulfill requirem

Congratulations OGE that is great news. They couldnt have made a better choice. Your wise words and humor over the years is appreciated in the forums and by me personally as they helped me thru some rocky times.

DeanRx time requirement for T-1 was dropped in 1990. SR540Beaver you sort of did read it wrong yes there was no project required for Eagle and there was no POR requirement either. POR and project for Eagle was added in 1965. 1965 also added service project for Star and Life in addition to the exsisting conservation project. POR's for Star and Life were added in 1968. Scouters.us has a history of Star,Life and Eagle requirements from 1911 to 2000. at: http://www.scouters.us/history.html#anchor681097

Definitely wear your medal. Congratulations to your nephew.

Eagle1977, I agree with you that the placement of the bulls tail is a tradition not a "legend" as others have said. IMHO its a tradition for two reasons. It's placement is not contrary to any current BSA rules,regulations,policies or procedures. As BW has said the BSA has no rule on its placement. The other is how long Scouts and Scouters have been told by Philmont trading post employees of how the tail is placed. I was told the same thing in 1971 when I purchased the bull after my trek. That because we hiked over the Tooth of Time we could place the tail over the shoulder. Since Philm

Having used both the 6th and 7th editions as a scout,joined in 1964 earned eagle and age out (both) in 1971. I would say that the current program has been watered down. Simple proof of this is FCFY. Back then scouts earned about 1 rank per year. You could only work on requirements for your next immediate rank. Each rank had a time requirement and "while a _____ scout do the following:". Requirements were also much more intensive than they are today.Examples taken from the 1969 requirements book: Second class: #7 do the following (a) Identify local plants that may cause skin poisoning. (b) Fi

I agree with what others have posted that a boy starts working on Boy Scout requirements after he has joined a Troop. Earning Merit Badges for Tenderfoot,2nd Class and 1st Class was a requirement that began in June 1972 with the introduction of the Eighth Edition of the Boy Scout Handbook. Tenderfoot earn any one merit badge, 2nd Class earn two more merit badges, 1st Class earn two more merit badges (this is a total of five of which two, Citizenship in the Community and First Aid are required). Other changes included the introduction of twelve skill awards and increasing the number o

The EBOR is required to explain in writing the reason for denial and explain the appeal procedures. You could contact Council and have them explain the appeal procedures. I would start an appeal of this decision. IMHO the DAC should not have sat on the EBOR as he was told to convene the EBOR by Council. What happened to this Scout is a shame, he proceeded on the project based on what he thought was an approval. E-mail and verbal approvals are not that unheard of.

Keeping notes of hours the Eagle candidate worked on planning and completing the project,along with the names dates and hours worked of who assisted in the project is a necessity. One of the pages in the workbook asks the number of hours the candidate spent in planning and carrying out the project. It also asks for the names,dates and hours worked of those who worked on the project. Considering what the workbook requires in hours spent I do not think what your Council Advancement Committee is asking is adding to the requirement. I think they are only helping the candidate in what he need

Kudu writes: Specific leadership advancement requirements were not added until this 1972 move away from Hillcourt's traditional Methods. It is the pressure of these advancement requirements that causes this "upset" and the tendency of adults and Scouts to "see it from an advancement perspective more than anything else." A lot of things changed with the movement to "urban Scouting" in 1972 the leadership requirement was not one of them. The leadership requirement for Star,Life and Eagle ranks was added in 1968. Star Scout requirement #4 "While a First Class Scout,serve actively

First let me say hello and welcome CM570. A listing of scouting forms along with requirements and progress records for Adult awards can be found here http://www.scouting.org/forms/

How to motivate scouts who are not advancing the age old question. There are many ways you could try to motivate your troop on advancement. You could sit with your SPL or PLC and discuss what you are seeing with regards to advancement. Get their suggestions on what can be done and at the same time you could also make your own suggestions(plant seeds). At that time you could remind them that having their scout handbooks at meeting/trips is important to help teach the requirements and for having requirements signed off as completed. You could suggest the SPL/PL have one on one conf

Congrats may this be the first of many many meetings where you sit and only watch your scouts at work. It is a great feeling when you see everything come together.

Was interrupted and I left out something important in my original post. Your Charter Organization must be a tax exempt organization and hold an sales tax exempt certificate issued by your state. Sales tax exempt status varies via state. Most states have automatic exemptions for churches/synagogues. FScouter for your state that could be very true. I am not well versed in every states sales tax laws as my tax accounting practice is limited to NJ and NY entities. Which is why I said to check with the Charter Organization as to their status.

Your Charter Organization is responsible for the tax exempt ID# that you would use. The reason being is that for all tax reporting purposes your unit is considered a subsidiary of the Charter Organization. Hope this helps you.

Have used Woolite to wash my canvas pack a couple of times and it did a good job of getting a stain out. Other than that Calico's great post covered everything else. Still using a canvas backpack that I bought in late 60's as a scout. With that said, don't think you were wrong in getting a canvas pack. I have always kept my pack indoors. I would not recommend storing it in a garage or damp basement. Since I keep mine semi packed with camping stuff I either store it between trips flat on floor of closet or under my bed. That way there is no stress on the packs mounting points. If y

Nice to have MC's that want to take training. EagleInKY is referring to Troop Committee Training Kit (cat # D33643). Your scout shop may have a copy or they could order it for you.

Packsaddle as a fellow eagle I couldn't agree more with your eloquent post. There are times that people forget that while a scout had help along the way in attaining the rank of Eagle it was his alone to attain. We can push,prod,guide and sometimes as parents even threaten. When it is all said and done if that individual doesn't have that desire,want and goal then there isn't anything anyone can do. Eagles are individuals just like anyone else and should be treated as such. The virtues that Eagles have is widely recognized in both the public and military sectors. As you so aptly p

Gern and Brent you both have great lists of famous Eagle scouts. Not wanting to cause anyone disgust but there is someone who comes to mind that fits the other part of the threads title. He was both an Eagle scout and at one point a Scoutmaster. Charles Whitman, not the ideal Eagle scout nor Scoutmaster role model.

MaScout, scottteng, FScouter, EagleInKY, and Ed have all given correct information. The choice between optional ER badges occurs when completing the Eagle Application. A scout could have earned all 5 of the optional ER badges in order to fulfill requirements for Star and Life as the requirement states any of the 15 ER badges may be used. The Eagle Application has the following footnote in requirement 3: *Cross out badges not earned. If a crossed-out badge was earned, it may be reentered in 13 through 21. Four of these required merit badges were earned for the Star Scout rank a

When approved by National the date of EBOR will be used on the Eagle confirmation letter and subsequent Eagle package documents. My Council's Scout shop,a National Scout shop, requires the confirmation letter to buy or order an Eagle presentation kit. They also require documentation to purchase Eagle rank badges or Eagle medals. What does surprise me is that without waiting the few weeks for the Eagle confirmation letter his parents were able to acquire an Eagle rank badge. Our Troop tells the parents that nothing is official until Eagle confirmation letter is received. They

Other than what you find in G2SS or age-appropriate guidelines, you won't find Official BSA backup to prove that they can use them. It is up to the unit to decide what the guidelines are in respect of what can be used, who can use them and what supervision is required. A unit decides what level of risk and liability exposure they are willing to accept if something happens and someone becomes injured. While some may call these "rules", "urban ledgends". In this specific case I see them as covering your tail. They very well might limit your exposure in a lawsuit. Unfortunately

Congrats to the new Eagle and to the new Eagle Mom and Eagle Dad.

Remember that fiasco well,June 1972-Feb 1979, era of Urban Scouting. The outing left scouting and membership dropped over 30% during that nightmare. As much as he tried in writing the Ninth of the Boy Scout Handbook Bill Hillcourt could not undo all the damage that was done by "Urban Scouting".

I have to agree with LongHaul and Beavah on this. Its up to the SM's discretion on what to accept as hours for Star and Life service projects. "While a FirstClass/Star Scout,take part in service projects totaling at least 6 hours work. These projects must be approved by your Scoutmaster." The approval is for the project the Scout is working on to fullfil for his advancement requirement. "Star and Life service projects may be approved for Scouts assisting on Eagle Service projects." (33215 p. 20, my emphasis). It doesn't say "must be or can't be" it says "may be". "may be" leaves