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If a person cannot choose as a scout leader to be trustworthy, loyal helpful friendly, kind, obedient cheerful, clean, and reverent in their post, then they should not expect courtesy in exchange for their behavior. I respectfuly disagree with your statement. IMHO a scout or scouter is to follow all points of the scout law at all times. The Scout Oath says "and to obey the Scout Law". Not some of the Law some of the time or only the ones I feel like when I feel like depending on circumstances. You can chose to "talk to" instead of "talk at" there is a big difference between the t

Our Troop meetings are on Friday. Did it for two reasons. No boy sports are held on a Friday except for one HS football game. And that the boys have the weekend to do homework. The parents like Friday because homework is not an issue. The only drawback is we lose a meeting when we go camping.

Bob your Scouting history is also in error. Urban scouting came into effect with the Eighth edition of the Boy Scout Handbook.The first printing of this Handbook was June 1972,I have a copy in my scouting library. That is when skill awards were first introduced,along with MB's being required for Tenderfoot,2nd and 1st Class advancement. Another major change was the the number of MB's needed to earn Eagle was increased from 21 to 24. It wasn't until 1979, when Bill Hillcourt wrote the Ninth edition of the Boy Scout Handbook, that Urban scouting was dropped.

GopherJudy, No, I do not work at the camp. I went there as a Scout 1966-1970, SM of my old Troop 1977-1980 and with my current Troop as ASM since 2000. Though I was a lifeguard there one summer while I was in college. The menu for the week has been posted on the camps web site. PB&J is available at all meals. The food is actually very good. If you have any other questions please send me a PM, I will be happy to answer them. In the mean time I will send you some other information that you may find helpful.

GopherJudy, Can't tell you much about other summer camps but I do know NoBe. My Troop is going there July 31 for its 6th year, my 15th year. If your son has not reached First Class then he will enjoy first class adventure. He should go to the class for his next rank ie Tenderfoot goes to the Second Class trail. They will do all of the requirements for that rank during the week. There will be a 5-6 mile hike on Thursday after lunch. First Class adventure is also set up for the scouts to earn swimming MB as it covers the 1st Class swimming requirements(see the MB schedule) or 2 o

Juris I find your posts amazing. With each post your misstatements of BSA terminology and programs are more profound. BSA,Inc does not exsist. Nationals charter states the name as Boy Scouts of America or BSA. There is no Inc,Ltd or Corp in its name. Camping,knot tying,cooking all were requirements when I earned my AOL in the spring of 1964. This seem to have been part of the Cub Scout program prior to your involvement in Scouting. "I improved the recruiting program by asking my high ranking scouts to serve as Den Leaders in the Packs, so they can influence the Cub scouts to

My local shoe repair has fixed both a backpack and a tent for me with great results.(This message has been edited by ljnrsu)

No, the boy can not use one badge for Star and the other for Life. The answer to your question is found on the Eagle Scout Rank Application itself. The application states: Cross out badges not earned. If a crossed-out badge was earned, it may be reentered in 13 through 21. Four of these required merit badges were earned for the Star Scout rank and three more were earned for the Life Scout rank. I hope this answers your question.

hacimsaalk12, There is an age requirement for JASM. You must be atleast 16 years old. It is listed in the SM handbook

I recertified in April. Entered memberID number and Council ID number. I received card via e-mail in minutes. Also received an e-mail from my SE stating that Council's records will be updated.

CNY,I agree advancement is over emphasized. I also agree that the patrol method is the most misunderstood. Putting 6-8 Scouts together does not always make it a patrol. I see patrols as mini Troops. They have their own meetings and outings. All to often I have seen units where patrols do not have their own meetings. And where patrol outings were discouraged or not allowed.

Saw something very similar a couple of years ago. It was for State Farm Insurance. It showed an agent as a Scoutmaster doing some scout stuff and as a youth sports coach. It ended with he's not just your agent he's also your neighbor.

cmarrero, As our unit is also from NNJC. All of the adult leaders who are going are listed on the tour permit. We also add the following: Scouts will be transported by their own parent/guardian or the above listed drivers. This has always been accepted by Council. I hope this helps. (This message has been edited by ljnrsu)

I have a similar tent made by coleman,purchased mid 60's,the poles are external. The top pole has a 90 bend on one end and a 45 on the other. It was called an external spider umbrella because the poles looked like spider legs.

Scouterfly, I wonder if the timing of the fundraising could be the problem in that scenario. Raising funds after the project is over in order to remburse donors could be the problem. At least that is how I interpret your scenario. According to a copy of the Eagle Scout Leadership Service Project Workbook(2003)Pg2 "Fund-raising is permitted only for securing materials or supplies needed to carry out your project"

meamemg, The ASM-New scout patrol is the one responsible for that program not a youth. It doesn't matter how many troop guides you have,they still are responsible to the ASM-new scout patrol. You can have a Troop guide assigned to each New scout patrol. Chapter 3 page 16 of the Scoutmaster Handbook has a sample Junior Leader Organizational chart for a large Troop. Ask your SM if you can look at his copy. The current edition of the Senior Patrol Leaders Handbook is a great resource for SPL's and ASPL's.

meamemg Troop Guides should not be the responsibility of a ASPL. They should be the responsibility of the ASM for the new scout patrol, along with any Den chiefs you may have. The Scoutmaster handbook along with Scoutmaster Junior Leader Training kit has the information on Troop orginazation.

"we ate things that were mostly packed in plastic and aluminum. you know how hardit would be to pack all that stuff out?" Just as hard it was to carry it in in the first place. Where there is a will, there always is a way. Do you actually believe that what you bury stays buried? Some animal will eventually find it and just dig it up. They are resourceful critters. www.lnt.org They do a much better job of explaining LNT guidelines than I can. Since I do not wish to become long winded. link worked(This message has been edited by ljnrsu)

"serve actively" in a POR the "grey" area of Scouting. Is it the SM,SPL,ASPL or some combination of them? To me it is some combination of the above. A PL is responsible to the SPL who in turn is responsible to the SM. So if a PL in "not" doing his job then it is a problem for the SPL and SM in that order. If the SPL doesn't have a problem with a PL but the SM does,the SM has a bigger problem. Besides having a PL "not" doing his job he also has a SPL "not" doing his. If you look at a "troop junior leader organization" chart you will find that in most cases for POR there

Great question fgoodwin. The answers can easily be found in Backpacker's Guide to LNT. The bigger question is how closely do you want to follow them? LNT says to minimize use and impact of fires. They suggest that the fuel used in a fire be no thicker than your wrist. Using that guide line the fire will probably not get hot enough to reduce paper to fine ash. "pack it in;pack it out" is just that.If you can carry it in you can carry it out. I recently took 4 scouts on a 5 day 30 mile backpacking trip on the AT in NJ. 6 people(2 adults,4scouts) we did not fill 2 1 gallon bag

Hunt you brought up some very interesting points. I'll take a bite at #5, that worm looks mighty yummy. I would like to see changes made in all of the ranks leading to Eagle. For Scout I would like to see the following(a)Describe the flag of the United States of America and tell its history in brief. (b) Demonstrate respect for your flag by showing how to hoist,lower,display,fold and salute it. Tell when to fly it. Tenderfoot: be active in your troop,patrol and activities for at least 1 month since becoming a Scout. While a Scout,do the following(list of requirements). Or

Eagledad,as I said in my post. An Eagle Scout is an Eagle Scout no matter what age they earned it. Some of the comments in the other post drove me batty. Adults holding boys back because they feel that age has something to do with "being" an Eagle is just wrong. Giving "back" before you age out. If a boy has the drive and ambition to earn Eagle at 13 all the power to him. If on the other hand a boy is enjoying what his Unit is doing an earns Eagle at 17.99 that is ok also. As for head strong teenagers, during my tenures as SM and ASM I have seen both sides of that coin. I have s

Unc, Thanks for saying what need to be said. You are absolutely correct. Only the Scout decides,since he is the one that must do the work involved. Noone can do it for him. Your comment is so true. "Have you ever tried to convince a headstrong 13 year old of anything? You may be able to "muscle 'em" but you're not going to convince them of a darn thing". It reminds me of what a coworker once told me.You can always tell a teenager, but you can't tell it a darn thing. An Eagle Scout is an Eagle Scout no matter what age they earned it. BTW I earned my Eagle at 17.75, b

My neighbors 4yr old came out with these yesterday. What do you call a crate full of ducks? A box of quackers. What happens to a duck when it flys upside down? It quacks up.

BW,PS,FB great reply. Our Troop had the attitude that something is better than nothing. Come late/leave early whatever is necessary. We understand that Scouts is not the only activity the boys do. Everybody needs to be flexible.