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Sounds good at the outset, I wish him well. However, suppose Johnny has ADD/ADHD or something else and is on a "medication holiday" and leaves camp without the $30 kit. Now what? You still got a kid out there who wandered off, doesn't have matches, mirror, poncho, and stays lost for 4 days.

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She thinks she's a mom who knows. she's on the Troop Cmte too. She and parents lke her don't know that they allow their son to set a bad example AND disrupt patrol method and thumb their nose at the youth and adult leadership. So, what to do?

This weekend our troop particiapted in a crossing over ceremony and the pack had family camping behind the church at the same time. We got 4 new scouts and all seem enthusiastic. Here's the problem. Sally is COR (really acting as ACM also), her son Billy helped put on the event. As a "reward" for Billy, Sally told him he could sleep in a church building instead of a tent. When I and the other ASM asked why he was staying inside instead of a tent, he said his mom said he could. Sally overheard and told the other ASM, "I'm his mom and I told him he could stay in here. He worked hard

Our PLC plans trips within 2 hours from home. There is a lot to do near home.

I agree with SR540Beaver, The project should be closer to home. I'm sure that it would be a worthy project, but maybe for a church group to coordinate. Perhaps the lad could lead that effort through his church. Eagle project should be close to home. OGE, I was waving a bic lighter reading your post, sniffle, wipe tear, sniff, aw c'mon OGE, home is wear you hang your hat, not necessarily where you used to hang your sombrero.

uz2bnowl, I re-read your earlier post about not driving for weekends, 8 days a month without driving. Remember right after the attack on September 11? No planes flew for 4 or 5 days. That's a lot! But the environmental lefty's didn't say anything about how much cleaner the air was. It didn't make a difference in the big picture. That's all. jg

Gainesville, GA 73 degrees F Should be about 87, so I guess it's getting cooler, not warmer. We better outlaw lightning, because lightning is burning up the forests, at the rate the forests are burning, ther won't be a country in about 4 months. We'd better outlaw pinto beans while we're at it, you know, methane and "green house gas" Of course I'm being silly for a minute. The political left has taken GW as it's sacred cow. Only the left are "real" "authorites" on the subject. The atmosphere is an elastic medium, that is, high pressure here, low pressure there. Hi

CNY, Remind them that "Back in Feb. when a budget was created, we discussed yearly dues to raise the funds. The youth decided that they would be willing to do fundraisers instead of dues." Now it's time to step up and do the fundraiser. Besides, cleaning tables doesn't sound so bad.

OGE, LOCAL, I didn't intend to cause boredom on campouts, but rather to eliminate the "check in the box" route to advancement. Making a "useful camp gadget" seems to be a tripod by default. I intended to have proficiency, not a sign-off. While discussing our recent backpacking trip with another ASM ast week, I sugested (as the boys agreed - practice makes perfect) that our scouts hike in and out of most campouts and get away from pure car camping. He said I would be "adding to the requirement". I said, No, motorized transportation ends here, now use the heel to toe express an

I like many of the comments above. How about changing the requirements for the basic scoutcraft skills from Tenderfoot (for example) such as: 4a. Demonstrate how to whip and fuse the ends of a rope. 4b. Demonstrate you know how to tie the following knots and tell what their uses are: two half hitches and the taut-line hitch. To something that shows PROFICIENCY in the skill like: 4a. Demonstrate how to whip and fuse the ends of a rope 10 times on 10 different occassions. 4b. Demonstrate you know how to tie the following knots and tell what their uses are: two half hitche

Here's what happened: On Thursday, PL (my son) called the two of them and invited them over for a patrol campout in our back yard. Friday evening came, we went over some of Tenderfoot, set up tents in the back yard, and cooked breakfast on Saturday morning. We continued with the book work and the boys went home by noon. Aside from the time requirement for the physical fitness stuff, they pretty much have it. I was their WDL, so it was review mostly. Show scout spirit, SM conf and BOR remain. One lad called his mom at 11:45 p.m. Friday night, I asked why, but he couldnt say, so I go

Beavah, go ahead, raise the temperature, I dare you! See, you can't do it. The eco-politics of the radical left in this country have been scaring people for decades. Americans as a rule have short memories. I do remember hearing some of the same hogwash 30 years ago. Mt. St. Helen's eruption did more damage than man can ever do. Like Brent, I heard on Atlanta radio earlier today, "scientists estimate that temperatures will be 10 deg higher by 2080", What? 2080?? scientists can't tell you what the temp will be in 7.3 days and they expect us to believe what the weather

But what about the football and karate? I'd hardly say that they are "civilized"

You might see if there is a genuine flight simulator (not a disney type ride) nearby, a military base or aviation museum might have something.

FScouter, By man not ruining the earth, I mean that man can't destroy Earth. Sure, man can pollute, man can do many things, but not destroy the planet. I've said we should be good stewards, put trash in cans, then landfills, preferably lined landfills. Some trash should be recycled, etc. Don't use the street for a toilet, etc. In the first Gulf War, Saddam dumped a lot of oil into the Persian Gulf. but just a couple of years later, there was no evidence of any oil spill. One volcano eruption does more harm to the atmosphere than man could ever do. Let's become energ

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Merlyn, Trees and plants use the CO2 to make oxygen. Short of nuclear holocaust, man can not ruin the earth. It's hot here, cool there, kinda like high tide, high someplace, low someplace else. Merlyn, what major city do you live near?

Wow, so many good ones. Nanny is 75+ and can't go camping. The backyard idea may work. I'll be having lunch with the dad Thursday, but I don't want to guilt trip anyone either. Before the backpacking trip, I explained everything at her kitchen table with maps, the trail guide book (Bartram Trail in NE Georgia) and how the trip would go. She said then "I'll talk to Fred", Fred later told me he couldn't go and Johnny told Mason (my son) he "had to go to a party" There's a bit of this culture in the troop I've noticed. One of the First Class scouts doesn't have a pack, he ca

Wow, Merlyn discussing something OTHER than atheism, welcome to the rest of the forum Merlyn! Alright, bazillion years on Earth, 150 + - years of climate records. The atmosphere is an elastic medium (air can be compressed and expanded). Man can cause pollution, man CAN NOT cause the Earth to heat up. Only the big fire ball in the sky can do that. Carbon dioxide is expressed into the atmosphere, plants and trees need carbon dioxide to grow. Trees and plants give off oxygen. It's part of the cycle. Be good stewards, give a hoot, don't pollute. Let's all take care of w

Ok, here are the events (in short) Cross over Feb 5, earned Scout Badge same night. Mar 2,3,4 Car camping at committee members "farm" 70 miles away, Johnny couldn't go because it was "too far", she said "that's south of Atlanta, he can't go that far" Apr 20,21, 22 Camp-o-ree, again, car camping, at nearby county fairgrounds, couldn't go,, dad couldn' go, therefore son couldn't go. May 4,5,6 backpacking, only 7 miles. Mom said "he would have to filter is water, oh no, he might get sick, what about snakes? he could get bit by a snake, then what? he can't go." I suggested th

Umm, no. Mom is a princess, only "camps" at resorts. Has a nanny for the 7 month old, housekeeper, etc. Doesn't really cook, and ain't gonna camp. Dad however, came to Webelos Woods last fall, Johnny could go if dad could go, but dad's schedule hasn't allowed it. I'm friends with these folks and still, that isn't good enough. Dad couldn't go on the backpacking trip, he wieghs about 350 pounds, it would have killed him. but, I suggested he come along, stay Friday night, drive to the other campsite and wait, then camp with us there. Work schedule didn't allow it. The next one is

We had 3 boys cross over into the troop in Feb. One is now a Tenderfoot, the other two miss a few meetings and have not been on any of the three campouts since joining. This evening, while talking to one dad, he said is son Johnny is dropping out. He says it's because his son hasn't gotten anything. I reminded him that Johnny needs to go on the campouts in order to pitch a tent and sleep in it, etc. He kows the memorizations (oath, law, et al) and did the push ups, run etc, bt Johnny hasn't been camping because mom is too over-protective. Dad and nanny agree. Forum members, plea

Packsaddle, A bad day camping is better than any day at work.

Packsaddle came on a backpacking trip with our trip this past weekend. Thanks, it was nice to meet you in person, you're taller than I imagined. Packsaddle was able to show the folks on a couple of occasions some interesting things about the forest. Too bad it was raining, he might have been able to show more, but the guys liked what you had to say. I know his profession, a biology professor at a major university. I've had many science classes in my profession, chiropractic. As I recall from undergraduate studies, one law is "Matter can neither be created nor destroyed, it is only