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I’m a little surprised you took issue with teachable. You have been on this forum long enough to see that we harp on this very thing a lot. The adults have to learn more and learn faster than the scouts just to stay out of their way. And scouters without a youth scouting experience are double the risk because they don’t know what to look for from the youths perspective. Adults simply have different ambitions than youth at this age and if an adult can’t calm their pride with humility, they will take the fun out of the scouts program. Qwazse colors “teachable” very well: I used to

Wah-tut-ca Scout Reservation and Hidden Valley are two options not too far away in NH to look at as well.

I'm shocked! Who would have guessed that all of that gory retelling would have inspired her to respond with equally copious self-justifying verbiage. On the other hand ... This young man ... the only person you need to answer to!

Well I sent the letter. I first sent it to the SM and the core ASMs, basically my friends who knew the whole reason for leaving, not the polite, but also true, "The new troop's meetings are a better night for us." Because of my meetings with them saying why I am leaving, the troop is in the process of reforms. But as you can imagine, these two families are ticked off and fighting it. According to the SM, they lost an entire Cross Over Den because of the new policy that only trained ASMs can go camping now. Personally I think the chaos the two adults caused on the camp out with them is the

My older scouts have very little interest in guns, not sure why. What they do like to do is to roll their own advetures so maybe encourage them to do a Patrol campout/ mini HA. We will do SeaBase this year and Philmont the next but it seems that they want more. I think they would love the mountaneering with the ranger school.

Dead on right. Give them space. Listen to what they really want to do. Then, let them do it. It might mean they want a patrol based ski weekend. Fine. It might mean they want a trip out west. Great. Often, they want to do something that sounds cool to their friends and that they can brag about. I'm not one for fixed or mixed age patrols. IMHO, the key thing is that a patrol is a group of friends that want to do things together. Our success with older scouts is to keep them active doing things they really want to do. And it usually means adventures and fellowship.

Key is to keep them engaged while also letting them have some space. Our troop runs multi age patrols. They cook / work within the patrol on activities but the troop sort of self segregates for camping / hammocking / tenting. Also if you are on a campout as an SPL / JASM / Eagle Scout you can come eat with the adult group For activities this past weekend we had the winter trip, several hours riding to the coast. The older group rode in one car, led the setup for the troop, were in charge of the activities. When we were coming back from some activities the older group stopped at one p

A Scout is thrifty! Sounds like a great plan. You will want to read (edit - RS) about the two requirements where I noticed changes since she will have to use those updated requirements when ranking up. I have the new book in my hands because the Scout Shops are now selling them, which is a bit earlier than I had hoped. A quick rundown of the changes: All images of Scouts were updated to be girls. Several other photos containing people were changed to use females or are simply different. They still all have the same theme and often very similar poses. Colors behind headers, like