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    • Cooperative uses of propeties by youth serving groups, and family serving entities should be a no brainer.  Looking at the history of BSA, it is hard to imaging what may have evolved WITHOUT the YMCA and the involvement of community groups.  We now have NO camps, yet the GS camp sits empty much of the year, and they choose to NOT make it easily used by Scouting America.  It seems logical to me, but what do I know, that all of these groups should be designing cooperative involvements, not just for camping on owned properties that are still viable, but also for programming.  The often over used "it takes a family" seems to fit here.  Early towns survived by cooperative methods.  While religions have slipped to the background in modern society, the silent familial opportunities still fill a huge hole in betterment of society.  Another otion might be for the large corporated outdoor and sports corporations enter into the saving of camps still there, but slipping, and develop coordinated events with updated facilities, open not ALL youth serving groups, perhaps on the traditional Summer Camp model, but also in special camps to support the environment and to introduce the trades and so on.  So many options that go untried for whatever excuse, while billions of dollars are wasted on foolishness and destruction of our world.  
    • Councils -  Absolutely too many councils, too much overhead.   As long as they keep raising money on the nostalgic memory of BSA, they will survive I guess Properties -  My understanding is (2024 I believe) for summer, if you took all the BSA properties, totaled up all the available slots in the camp (for example a camp is open 5 weeks and capacity is 250 per week, available slots are 1,250), the overall usage was maybe 30%.  That means there is a lot of unused capacity. Data shows top 3 property attendance Philmont Seabase Woodruff (Blairsville, GA) SA (formerly BSA) clearly needs to resize and figure out how to efficiently deliver program, how far will units travel, how many weeks can they operate, what can they do to fully utilize the property.  If one were to combine councils the properties could be passed to other groups (State / County / City parks for example) and the maintenance and sunk costs could be eliminated.
    • In that vein of thought, please stop sugar coating BSA's past and blatant coverups. 
    • Not always. I have seen Scouters go through all the training, yet still want to do things their way because 'Scouting needs to change with the times." Others just go through the motions, and then focus on their child. When you try to explain things, and mentor them, you are accused of "mansplaining,"  "being a misogynist," or "you don't know my son."
    • Not necessarily. I gotta be in the bottom 3 due to size. I could be wrong though. We are running the program as it should be run. Biggest challenge is no feeder pack, and have not had one for approximately 12 years. We got most of our scouts from existing ones who were dissatisfied with their troops. A few others who were never in Cubs, but had friends having fun with the troop was the other source. As the council stopped recruiting, packs have dwindled and died. Troops take a little longer since it is a 7 year program, and not a 4.5, now 5.5 year, program like Cubs. The Strongest troop does things their own way, and are successful because they are extremely protective of their pack. Leadership is shared, and they get fussy if other Scouts even talk to theirs.
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