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The Patrol Method

Lessons and questions of Scout leadership and operating troop program

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  1. What's in your......

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  2. An Opportunity Lost

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  3. JLT/New Scout Campout

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  4. JASM Responsibilities

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  5. SPL requirements

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  6. The Patrol Method Poll!

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  7. Patrol Flags & Yells

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  8. Patrol boxes

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  9. SPL and ASPL in Patrols

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    • But his interview/statement doesn't seem to indicate that he fully acknowledges any of that. He makes excuses, suggests that he may not have even touched her backside, and then dances around an apology but never really gives one.  It's easier to forgive when the person in question at least truly realizes what they did. 
    • @Tahawk

      I like that quote. I often think that failures of our Scouts are learning opportunities for them. Consistent or repeated failures are often failures by the adults to provide the right support to the youth.  There is a point I believe gets lost in the conversation about youth leadership in Scouting. I believe there is a spectrum of youth leadership, and adults need to adapt their own styles to meet youth along that spectrum. What a Scoutmaster must do, and the support they should provide to a brand new troop of 11 year old's is different than in a mature troop that has been functioning for many years.  In my own troop I've seen the dangers of a Scoutmaster who micromanages scouts that don't need it, but I've also seen some rather experienced youth leaders flounder when they didn't receive any sort of check in from the Scoutmaster.  I've always sought to emulate my first Scoutmaster when I was an youth. During the meetings he would sit off to the side, and if a Scout needed something from him, they knew exactly where to find him. Outside of meetings, he would check in with his SPL's and it would be something simple like "Are you happy with your plan, do you need anything from me?"
    • A few months ago I searched for wooden storage box plans, and was able to find a few sets of plans. A recent search hasn't yielded any. Can anyone point me in the right direction of some sets of plans to build some good dutch oven boxes??
    • It looks like 3 organizations according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scouting_and_Guiding_in_India
    • You put your Raptor claw on an important issue.  "What is important for us [as adults in Scouting] is: NOT the food on the campout, but that the boys cooked it. NOT a sharp-looking flag ceremony, but that the boys put it together. NOT who would make the best Patrol Leader [in our opinion], but that the boys elect one. NOT that Johnny learns first aid, but that Billy teaches him. NOT that we cover everything on the meeting agenda, but that the Senior Patrol Leader is in charge. Our goal is not to get things done, but to create a safe and healthy environment with the training and resources that the Scouts need, and then let them do it. It can be a very messy business, and painful to watch. Meetings where the boy leaders are in charge can be very chaotic. And it can be very tempting for adults to jump in and sort things out, because that is what adults do. But we have to remember that that is the process of Scouting. That is how they learn—even from disorganization and failure. We just have to remember that our business as adults is not the same as the business of the boys. It is up to them to get things done. It is up to us to make sure they have what they need, but (within the bounds of health and safety) not what they do with it."  Boy Scouts of America, Orientation for new Scout Parents  
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