SM and CC seem full speed ahead to promote incompetent Scout

[jcousino]

7 minutes ago, Armymutt said:

We don't get more repetitive training than the oath and law.  This is a kid who has been in the troop three months.  He came to us from another troop.  During his BOR, it came out that he wasn't aware he earned Fingerprinting MB at summer camp and doesn't recall the classes.  I can recall the exact setting, location, and principles in attendance at my Fingerprinting MB in 1991.  How this kid can't recall his from Aug 2025 is beyond me.

He may be  right paperwork error ?

[HashTagScouts]

48 minutes ago, jcousino said:

Sorry, it led to that. The advancement rules for bor retesting are clear; they serve more for feedback on the process. That all the way up and including the E-board once it's signed off, it's done.

This is true- however, at least one adult sitting on the BOR should understand the program enough to be able to ask questions constructively to assess the Scout and competency on the requirements. That isn't to penalize that Scout, but is helpful to give constructive feedback to the SM if the Scout was lacking, so that hopefully there can be a course correction before the next rank.

For example, Tenderfoot knot requirements:

Demonstrate a practical use of the square knot.
Demonstrate a practical use of two half-hitches.
Demonstrate a practical use of the taut line hitch.

 

I'd have a small rope with me, and ask the Scout if they ever timed themselves to see how fast they could do all of them, one after the other- and then  proceed to do it myself with them timing me. "OK, I felt that was not my best- how about you give it a try and see how fast you can do it?"  It's pretty clear pretty quick if the kid can't even get through a square knot in less than a minute he hasn't truly gained "mastery".

[SSScout]

When I do my Bugling MB , I often ask the Scout   :"Do you think that met the requirement?" 

I have not done this, but I have often thought that I understand the idea of a BoR NOT being a testing time, but it COULD be a reminding time.  

" Hello Bill, good to see you up for Second Class.  I know the ropes and  knots will come in mighty handy, not only in camping, but in other places too.  What knot is the toughest for you?  Do YOU think you know them?  "

 

[jcousino]

agree 100%