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  1. I see many instances where the phrase "cabin camping" is used on the Forum and it concerns me slightly, from the simple standpoint of Scout advancement. While sleeping a cabin is undoubtedly a valid/frequent/normal exercise in the annals of Boy Scout activities tradition, it does not fit within the acceptable activities to fulfill the camping requirements for Tenderfoot, 2nd Class, 1st Class, or Camping Merit Badge. To be clear, I am simply supplying the Forum with a resource from the BSA explaining camping requirements. I'm in no way knocking sleeping in a cabin; or letting the Scouts decide whether or not they want to sleep in a cabin; or whether or not to let the Scouts use paper plates; or letting the adults cook; etc. I think you get my drift.
  2. So I recorded an episode of my podcast with Scouting with Special Needs expert Sandy Payne, and I thought you might like to hear it. She's pretty great and gives an overview of a number of different disabilities. She also goes over advancements, and "coding", and quite a bit more. https://mikecooney.net/podcast/ep-1-scouting-special-needs/
  3. This is just a friendly reminder: On December 31, 2016, all rank advancement requirements in the Boy Scouting program expired. They were replaced in toto by a set of requirements issued in 2015, but now mandatory. Bryan on Scouting lays the matter out for all of us.
  4. From Bryan on Scouting. For your reading and consideration.
  5. Looks like all of our Dens are going to be ready to receive their rank badges at the April pack meeting. Rather do a series of small ceremonies for the Tigers, Wolves, Bears and Webelos 1s all in a row - I am trying to find a good idea for how to do one ceremony at the same time for all. I am picturing having everyone stand in a circle - with their parents behind them in another circle - or something like that. Anyone have an idea or something to share? Thanks,
  6. KenD500

    Advancement News

    Anyone else subscribe to the BSA National Advancement team newsletter? It comes out every 2 months and has some good info. Here's a link to the latest edition.
  7. Bryan Wendell posted this while scouter.com was down. Boy Scout service hour requirements to increase beginning 2016
  8. One of the requirements for earning Eagle Palms is that the scout "make a satisfactory effort to develop and demonstrate leadership ability." Does anyone have any BSA resources that explain what is meant by this phrase and what kind of actions will fulfill this requirement? Do those actions have to be pre-approved by the SM before the scout can begin them in order to fufill the requirement? Any light you can shed on this is appreciated!
  9. TheGreyArea

    Summer Camp Advancement

    I am looking for an opinion on first class path advancement at summer camp. Do you feel that it is acceptable for the Scoutmaster of a provisional unit to sign off on first class path advancement requirements, such as building a fire cooking over the fire, demonstrating first aid technique, etcetera etcetera? How would you handle this?
  10. In the new Webelos/AoL program, can 5th graders working on their Arrow of Light go back and earn the "required" pins from Webelos? For example, the Webelos Walkabout, First Responder, etc.? I don't think such a scout could go back and get the Webelos Award, but could they count the pins associated with it as electives for AoL (assuming of course they were *not* being used toward the Webelos Award)? This question came to me as I was looking at the transition from the old program to the new one, but I could see it being asked if a boy were to start Cub Scouts in 5th grade in the new program. For this year the big issue I see is with first aid--in the old program, first aid was covered in Readyman, which was one of the AoL required pins. Now, it's in First Responder, for Webelos. So, in effect the boys may "miss" that (of course we can just always cover the material anyway). The same thing is reverse is seen with Citizenship stuff--it was required as the Citizen pin for Webelos, but is now in the Build a Better World pin for AoL. So the boys see it twice.
  11. John-in-KC

    Late In Life Eagle

    This is trending. You can also find a version at scoutingnewsroom, but my isp is not friendly to that ip/domain. http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2015/06/14/3768685_boy-scout-finds-eagle-application.html?rh=1 Gist of the story: Scout completes requirements before age 18. Unit screws up the paperwork. Eventually, a copy of the app is found. Submitted through Council to National. National, under current Advancement policy, decides the breakdown is on the adult side of matters, not the youth. National authorizes an EBOR. Old Scouter earns Eagle.
  12. Advancement belt loops. See also Boy Scouting in the 70s. What can possibly go wrong? http://scoutingmagazine.org/2015/04/everything-need-know-new-cub-scouting-program/
  13. This just popped... http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/33088.pdf Here's the blog post from Bryan on Scouting, verbatim http://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2015/04/23/2015-guide-to-advancement-out-now-here-are-13-of-the-biggest-changes/ The 2015 Guide to Advancement, your official source for administering advancement in all Boy Scouts of America programs, is now available. View or download it by clicking here. The Guide to Advancement is a critical reference tool for anyone involved in advancement in Cub Scouting, Boy Scouting, Varsity Scouting, Venturing and Sea Scouts. It’s not meant to be read cover to cover. Instead, it’s organized and indexed so you can find answers to your advancement questions quickly. I appreciate that the sometimes-complicated topics covered in the Guide are conveyed in plain English. The Guide to Advancement is updated every two years to reflect changes to programs, requirements and policies. Changes come from a team of national-level professionals and volunteers. Many of the new sections are the result of frequently asked questions that the Advancement team is answering through new policies. You can find a complete list of significant changes to the Guide in section 1.0.3.0, beginning on Page 7. But I wanted to pick out 13 of the changes I consider the biggest: 1. Merit badge worksheets not allowed for certain requirementsSection: 4.2.0.1 What’s new: This language clarifies the official policy on something I’ve blogged about before: merit badge worksheets. Filling out a worksheet will not be allowed for requirements that use words like “show,†“demonstrate†or “discuss.†Excerpt from 2015 Guide to Advancement: “In Boy Scouting, advancement requirements must be passed as written. If, for example, a requirement uses words like ‘show,’ ‘demonstrate,’ or ‘discuss,’ then that is what Scouts must do. Filling out a worksheet, for example, would not suffice†2. Scoutmaster conferences should be face-to-face, not onlineSection: 4.2.3.5 What’s new: New language says Scoutmaster conferences should be held face-to-face and not online. That means Skype, which is great for some purposes but not as personal as a face-to-face conversation, is out. Excerpt from 2015 Guide to Advancement: “Scoutmaster conferences are meant to be face-to-face, personal experiences. They relate not only to the Scouting method of advancement, but also to that of ‘association with adults’ (see topic 2.0.0.4, ‘The Methods of Scouting’). Scoutmaster conferences should be held with a level of privacy acceptable under the BSA’s rules regarding Youth Protection. Parents and other Scouts within hearing range of the conversation may influence the Scout’s participation. For this reason, the conferences should not be held in an online setting.†3. New Cub Scout program now included in the GuideSections: Changes throughout the Cub Scout sections, including 4.1.0.0–4.1.1.5 What’s new: Lots. Language now reflects the new Cub Scout program that launches on June 1, 2015. Excerpt from 2015 Guide to Advancement: “Den leaders, Cubmasters, and their assistants conduct meetings implementing the three steps in Cub Scout advancement: preparation, qualification, and recognition. Four separate den leader guides — one each for the Tiger, Wolf, and Bear programs, and one combined for Webelos and Arrow of Light — explain the mechanics for doing so while helping to maximize advancement.†4. New Venturing awards outlinedSections: 4.3.0.0 to 4.3.4.0 What’s new: Almost everything. Last year (2014) saw the introduction of a new Venturing Awards program: Venturing, Discovery, Pathfinder and Summit. Excerpt from 2015 Guide to Advancement: “Four awards make up the Venturing advancement track: Venturing, Discovery, Pathfinder, and Summit, but others also are described below. Venturers have until their 21st birthday to complete their awards.†5. Sea Scouts aren’t VenturersSection: 4.4.0.0 What’s new: Sea Scouting, previously considered a “special-interest program carried on as part of Venturing,†is now separated. Excerpt from 2015 Guide to Advancement: “Sea Scouts are not Venturers.†Also: “The Sea Scout Bronze Award is discontinued, and Sea Scouts no longer work on Venturing awards.†6. Unit merit badge counselor lists shouldn’t be available to Scouts onlineSection: 7.0.2.3 What’s new: Units can (and maybe even should) establish a list of registered merit badge counselors. But Scouts should get those names and contact info from a Scoutmaster, not from a list made available online. Excerpt from 2015 Guide to Advancement: “Due to concerns about merit badge counselor privacy, and since Scouts should receive the names and contact information from the Scoutmaster, unit counselor lists should not be made available to Scouts online.†7. Merit badge instruction should be small in scaleSection: 7.0.3.0 What’s new: Rather than large merit badge classes reminiscent of a boy’s time in high school, the BSA encourages smaller-scale instruction. Excerpt from 2015 Guide to Advancement: “The sort of hands-on interactive experience described here, with personal coaching and guidance, is hardly ever achieved in any setting except when one counselor works directly with one Scout and his buddy, or with a very small group. Thus, this small-scale approach is the recommended best practice for merit badge instruction and requirement fulfillment. Units, districts, and councils should focus on providing the most direct merit badge experiences possible. Large group and Web-based instruction, while perhaps efficient, do not measure up in terms of the desired outcomes with regard to learning and positive association with adults.†8. Merit badge prerequisites get explainedSection: 7.0.4.11 What’s new: This whole section is new. It explains merit badges that appear to have prerequisites. Excerpt from 2015 Guide to Advancement: “Some merit badges appear to have ‘prerequisites.’ The Emergency Preparedness merit badge, for example, requires the earning of the First Aid merit badge. But since the requirement does not state that First Aid must be earned before beginning work on the other Emergency Preparedness requirements, it is not, by definition, a prerequisite. It is just another requirement. Even though ‘Earn the First Aid Merit badge’ is the first requirement, it need not be the first requirement fulfilled. It is just that the Emergency Preparedness merit badge is not finished until after the First Aid merit badge is completed.†9. Youth observers aren’t allowed at boards of reviewSection: 8.0.1.0 What’s new: No youth should sit in to “observe†a board of review. Excerpt from 2015 Guide to Advancement: “The unit leader may remain in the room, but only to observe, not to participate unless called upon. The number of ‘observers’ at a board of review should otherwise be minimized. The members of the board of review, however, have the authority to exclude the unit leader or any other observers if they believe their presence will inhibit open and forthright discussion. Youth observers are not permitted in boards of review for Boy Scouting advancement.†10. Guidance offered for boards of review conducted through videoconferencingSection: 8.0.1.6 What’s new: This whole section is new. It covers boards of review conducted through videoconferencing. Face-to-face boards of review are preferred, but sometimes that’s impossible. So this section helps explain how to run a successful board of review through this format. Excerpt from 2015 Guide to Advancement: “From time to time, however, as Scouts go off to college or the military, or live in very remote locations, for example, it may be virtually impossible to hold in-person boards of review. In those rare situations where it is unreasonable to expect a Scout to travel long distances, or to wait several months, it is permissible to use videoconferencing.†11. The official Eagle Scout Rank Application is the only one to useSection: 9.0.1.3 What’s new: A clarification explains that the official Eagle Scout Rank Application (512-728) is the only one Scouts should use. Excerpt from 2015 Guide to Advancement: “Scouts must submit the official Eagle Scout Rank Application, No. 512-728, found at www.scouting.org/advancement. No other form or application is permitted. Special worksheets or spreadsheets have been created in some councils that when filled out electronically produce a completed application. Because the official application changes from time to time, and because submitting out-of-date applications can cause confusion and delays, Scouts must not be required to use these tools. If they do use them, they still must complete and submit the official Eagle Scout Rank Application.†12. Crowdfunding for Eagle Scout projects explainedSection: 9.0.2.10 What’s new: Fundraising for Eagle Scout projects isn’t required. Plenty of awesome projects are completed without fundraising. But if a Scout needs to raise money, he may use crowdfunding to do so, provided he follows the policies outlined in this section. This is something I’ve blogged about. Excerpt from 2015 Guide to Advancement: “Typical unit fundraisers with which unit leadership is familiar, such as car washes, are the best options. Another alternative, contingent on local council approval, is the use of ‘crowdfunding’ via the Internet. If this method is used, however, then all concerned, from the Scout and his parent or guardian to the unit leader and those approving fundraising at the local council, should be aware that fees may be involved and that fundraising for something like an Eagle project may or may not comply with the website’s terms of service. There can be other issues as well, such as what to do if more — or less — than what is needed is raised. It is important that someone in a position of responsibility reads and understands the website’s ‘fine print.'†13. Request for Registration Beyond the Age of Eligibility form createdSection: 10.1.0.2 What’s new: This new form applies register a person who will remain as a youth member beyond the age of eligibility. Excerpt from 2015 Guide to Advancement: “The Request for Registration Beyond the Age of Eligibility, No. 512-935, found in the appendix and at www.scouting.org/advancement, should be used in this process.â€
  14. CNYScouter

    Por Sign Off Issue

    3 weeks ago at Troop meeting 2 Scouts asked me to sign off on their POR requirements. One I wasn’t sure he was even holding the POR he said he was (Chaplin’s Aid for Life) and for the 2nd one I wasn't sure what he had done for his POR (Historian for Star) I told both that they needed to see the SM about getting these signed off. We had a week off for Spring Break and last week both of these Scouts approached me again asking if I could sign off the Scout Sprit requirement. I saw that both had gotten one of our new ASM’s to sign off on the POR requirement. I told both of these Scouts I needed to talk with the SM before doing the Scout Sprit requirement and I would get back with them. After a discussion with the SM he had talked with both of these Scouts on what they needed to do before the POR requirement would be signed off. Neither had done anything towards the POR but got it signed by another ASM I have been asked to do the Scout Sprit requirement with them before they do the SM conference. How would you approach this with the Scouts? FYI- I can’t really blame the new ASM’s as they took the Scouts word that they had done the POR. SM has had a chat with the new ASM’s about this….and it will be discussed at the SM conference
  15. So in my council it appears that you can no longer buy a rank patch without your Advancement Chair from your unit printing out a form from the Internet Advancement website to validate your Scout is the rank you say he is. Of course there's no way you can buy bulk rank patches either anymore without said paperwork. If you try they make you fill out a form with the names of the scouts for which you are buying said patch. I asked, "So, do I still have to pay or does this count as the Internet Advancement paperwork to get my patches free?" The reply was, "Nope, you still have to pay." Then I asked, "Ok, so does council take the paperwork and check off that these scouts got their badge?" The young man said, "No, the council just wants this paper filled out." Naturally I asked, "What does council do with the form." Expecting nothing better I heard, "Nothing. All the forms I've given them get filed and forgotten." So, to be clear, if you don't show up with a print out from Internet Advancement you need to 1) fill out a form that will never get used, 2) have to still pay for your patches and 3) if you are a mom or dad simply buying that second or third rank patch (all ranks included on this, not just Eagle) you are out of luck. Somewhere in my state there a roving band of illegal scouts wearing unearned rank badges that caused this whole mess.
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