johnsch322

I am sorry I confused you. Glad you understood the overnight part. As far as litigation goes all I am saying is that only when litigation started did organizations get serious about YPT. Even USA swimming has tightened its controls only as a result of litigation.

How about no non registered adults on any overnight campout? As the previous poster said how does litigation make it safer for I will ask you if there had been no litigation against youth organizations would it be as safe as an environment now or would we have less controls. I have experience with youth as my daughter was a competitive swimmer for about 8 years.

Of course not all the victims of child abuse are not litigants…..some are dead, some are so mentally unhealthy they can’t function and some are so embarrassed and have no self worth they cannot or will not come forward. Which orginazation are you alluding to has 10 times the amount of abused youth. If you actually know of one and care about protecting youth please come forward and protect those youth. I am pretty sure that no where have I bragged about how this case will make youth safer but now that you bring it up I will. And as for hard evidence I don’t think you need to be a genius to correlate stricter controls will make youth safer. I am sure all youth organizations are looking closer at their own programs with the litigation that has happened within multiple orginazations hence litigation makes all youth safer.

It was done because the coalition in the name of AIS sent out a packet without a letter from Tim Kosnoff.

I would like to add that I feel like they are always confident. No matter what they come across as hey we have this...don't worry....we are all in this together. It is never doom and gloom.

Seems like two members of this Coalition/YPT advisory committee may; have quit according to Tim Kosnoff. My guess is that they did not want to be part of the dog and pony show.

It would be interesting to listen to the recordings of the calls and what was said to prospective claimants and as a former owner of call centers I know that they have recordings.

Normally I would probably agree with you but this poster just previously to that post said "Is there any victims’ attorney out there who said they will take a CO off their list of intended targets if they drop a charter?" And not a big leap to connect: with survivors.

Dear survivors represented by AVA did you hire lawyers or call center managers? New Call Center Billings Montana - YouTube Or maybe it just to hard to distinguish between the two?

What is it that parents want their pound of flesh for and what are they threatening litigation about?

Are we blaming survivors once more? When will it end?

I just received this via email: Please be advised that on November 5 and 6, 2021, the TCC sent emails to survivors that was on behalf of Tim Kosnoff. The email was intended only for Mr. Kosnoff's Abused in Scouting (AIS) clients. If you received the email and you are not one of Mr. Kosnoff's AIS clients please disregard the email. The TCC apologizes for any confusion. Counsel to the Official Tort Claimants' Committee, PSZJ.

I honestly feel that moderators do try to do their best however in this situation if the offense was the PH# or email address then that could have been edited out and an explanation could have been made. This I feel was going a bit over the line. Especially when the quoted post had nothing about being a "dunce" which anyone who has followed this forum for awhile knows that @ThenNowis far from (but uses phrasing like this when he wishes to make a point). If we lose @ThenNowas we seem to have lost @CynicalScouterit will be a great loss to our community.

It seems to me that obviously @ThenNowwas not soliciting and that Tim Kosnoff wasn't offering his services for sale. Rather he was offering advice and a way to contact him for advice. He states "Please feel free to call me or email me with any questions you may have."

I keep reading this over and over and I personally believe you owe him an apology.

Can you give examples of what is and what is not acceptable please?

It would be helpful if you were a little more explicit in the explanation. When you posted what you did originally I wasn’t sure if it was directed at myself or to whom it was directed to.

I have the same situation different lawyer. It was a recommended no also.

Hopefully there are more AIS or former AIS clients like you.

Anderson has about 1600. I believe.

After last weeks meeting and TCC hosting MJ the coalition made the announcement of forming an advisory group on YPT. What will they do this week come up with a slideshow that shows why they think the LC's cannot give more to the settlement?

It will be interesting to see how the coalition of lawyers responds. Will they dispute what the TCC says the LC's have? And if they don't how will they say that the offer is as good as it can get?

I am not championing anyone, I just don't think that being part of the TCC should be a disqualifier. I also do not think that without intimate knowledge of a person one can say that someone suffers emotional and mental fatigue.

I do not believe there is an average survivor. We have all had different courses in life. Being on the TCC does not make you a bitter spouse. I believe that someone like John Humphrey who had a successful career before the bankruptcy and is passionate about CSA would make a perfect candidate. He appears to be quite rational and clear headed. I think that his tireless dedication with the TCC is outstanding.

One little correction the TCC is the nine claimants who were selected by the US Trustee. They hired the law firm and only the law firm is paid by the BSA. If what you say is true I would think that would rule out pretty much any survivor.